i'll start with you, mmar. south africa has launched an urgent request to the international court of justice over israel's planned raff offensive, explain what it might mean and if it has any greater chance. of stopping the carnage from going ahead than the other ruling that came earlier? well look um, i was on earlier program uh before discussing the icj, potential outcomes of the icj judgement, took a pretty cynical view, which was that uh, didn't think it was really going to amount to much, didn't think it was going to have any material effect in stopping the genocide in gaza, i think few weeks now since that has happened that has been proven to be true because ultimately the enforcement powers of the icj are very limited, ultimately is the job of the un security council to enforce icj decisions and judgments and we know that the united states of america is opponent member of the un security council and can veto anything that they decide to do, now of course uh it's very important what south africa is doing,