so, what does moral formation and moral leadership mean? what does it look like? how can we cultivate it and what difference does it make? it will be hard to get through all of this, but we have a panel who can make a huge dent in our understanding of why this is so important. the attention we should be paying to it and how we can cultivate it for more perfect union. starting off, i want to turn to my federal -- fellow panelists. when we speak about moral formation and moral character in our leaders and citizens, what are we talking about? how is character formed? >> great. i am really happy to be here, really happy to be on this panel. part of the problem here right at the outset is in politics, the sum of what it means to be moral has been taken up with having the right positions or the right answers. i think the way in which that consumption of morality alone, the way that can be misused has become really apparent. when you talk about formation -- i talk about a spiritual formation in part because of that reason. the spirit refers to our character or our will.

we are in a moral crisis, but we have the power. every election around. we have power in this country because in 2016 we saw that over a third of the states, the margin of victory over a third of the state were less than 100,000 voters. we have the power and we're going to show them our power not just on march 2nd, on june 15th and definitely at the polls. we have the power and we are going to be making it known that these elections, they're going to be one step, but we know that it's the first step on a long road to change every single one of those policies so all can move forward together. [applause] >> not one step back. >> i think it's very clear why our politicians running need to talk to these voters. our votes are not about personality, about demands, your conventions need to talk to these voters while we're doing this before the convention. if you want these voters, talk to them because they have the power when we keep talking about saving democracy. here is the power, so to talk about that, we have some people coming now wh

that would be the right and moral thing to do. thank you all for cominu and moral thing to do.ming onto the _ and moral thing to do. thank you all for coming onto the programme. - and moral thing to do. thank you all| for coming onto the programme. we appreciate it. so let's take a look at some of the front pages. the front page of the guardian let's have a look to strip experts warn hunt over dubious case for unfunded budget tax cuts. obviously the budget is a week this wednesday. grassroots tories fury at anderson suspension. front page of the daily telegraph, army wives force the mod u—turn over housing, and there is a picture of emma barnett, used to be on this programme for they say she is heading to the today programme. the financial times, sweden clears the last hurdle to join nato as putin. shifts alliance bodies. that's it from us tonight. i'm back tomorrow. see you then. breaking news from around the world 24 breaking news from around the world 2a hours a day. this is bbc news. we have great concerns over these issues _ we have great concerns over these issues because

it is a moral and spiritual issue and that's crucial. they will have black people, latrene white people, the way why people have treated black b. i would be as solid daddy with my vanilla brothers and sisters. it's a moral and spiritual issue. well, right now, who is being subjugated? who's being degraded? who is humanity? a baby thoroughly call into question who was being viewed as yesterday or less than human treat. it is not in the, the zip. the depths of all of those precious babies of children and women and men can be get tossed aside and you get some kind of reflection on narrow economic calculation of a joe. but please please i have no patience for that. i read and clicked the west and shallow about the church and the black panther party shake me as a teenager, and i will be true onto that. i'll be faithful on the death trying to tell the truth. it'd be a deep solidarity with any people who lo, press, let alone those undergoing such a vicious genocidal attack right now. you know, there is a movement right now, i think in terms of

but let's be very clear we are in a moral crisis right now.isis in this country but has been festering because of the systemic injustices we have heard do not have to be this way. it is a policy choice we are in a moral crisis he have poverty being the fourth leading cause of death we are in a moral crisis led to 2 million people earning less than $15 an hour. we are in a moral crisis for 46 million peoplee who don't evn have access to safe drinking water. we are in a moral crisis but we have the power we have the power across this country to turn every election around. we have a power in this country because in 2016 we saw over one third of the state the margin of victory for over a third of the state wereha less than 100,000 voters. we have the power we are going to show them our power not just on march 2 on june 15 definitely at the polls we have the power it will be making it known these elections are going to be one step. we know the first step on the long road to change every single one of those policies so all can afford together. [appl

it is a moral and spiritual issue and that's crucial. they will have black people were treating white people the way white people have treated black b. i would be as solid daddy with my vanilla brothers and sisters. it's a moral and spiritual issue. well, right now, who was being subjugated? who is being degraded? who is humanity? it'd be thoroughly call into question who was being viewed as yesterday or less than human treat. it is not in the visit. the death of all those precious babies of children and women in man can be get tossed aside and you get some kind of reflection on narrow economic calculation of a job. i please please. i have no patience for that. i read and clicked the west and shallow about the church and the black panther party shake me as a teenager, and i will be true on to death. i'll be faithful on the death trying to tell the truth, it'd be a deep solidarity with any people who lo, press, let alone those undergoing such a vicious genocidal attack right now. you know, there is a movement right now, i think in terms o

we are in a moral crisis, but we have the power.er across this country to turn every election around. we have power in this country because in 2016 we saw that over a third of the states, the margin of victory over a third of the state were less than 100,000 voters. we have the power and we're going to show them our power not just on march 2nd, on june 15th and definitely at the polls. we have the power and we are going to be making it known that these elections, they're going to be one step, but we know that it's the first step on a long road to change every single one of those policies so all can move forward together. [applause] >> not one step back. >> i think it's very clear why our politicians running need to talk to these voters. our votes are not about personality, about demands, your conventions need to talk to these voters while we're doing this before the convention. if you want these voters, talk to them because they have the power when we keep talking about saving democracy. here is the power, so to talk about that, we

so, what does moral formation and moral leadership mean? what does it look like? how can we cultivate it and what difference does it make? it will be hard to get through all of this, but we have a panel who can make a huge dent in our understanding of why this is so important. the attention we should be paying to it and how we can cultivate it for more perfect union. starting off, i want to turn to my federal -- fellow panelists. when we speak about moral formation and moral character in our leaders and citizens, what are we talking about? how is character formed? >> great. i am really happy to be here, really happy to be on this panel. part of the problem here right at the outset is in politics, the sum of what it means to be moral has been taken up with having the right positions or the right answers. i think the way in which that consumption of morality alone, the way that can be misused has become really apparent. when you talk about formation -- i talk about a spiritual formation in part because of that reason. the spirit refers to our character or our will.

. . ., family, that's all good for boosting morale. . , ., morale.k — morale. charles, always good to see you- thank you _ morale. charles, always good to see you. thank you for _ morale. charles, always good to see you. thank you for coming _ morale. charles, always good to see you. thank you for coming on - morale. charles, always good to see you. thank you for coming on the i you. thank you for coming on the programme. you. thank you for coming on the programme-— around the world and across the uk. you're watching bbc news. look at some of the responses there have been around the globe to the news of king charles's diagnosis. we've heard from the prime ministers rishi sunak. let mejust read you again his statement. here's some of the reaction. just found out, and i was quite devastated. sad to hear. sad just found out, and i was quite devastated. sad to hear. sad to hear an one devastated. sad to hear. sad to hear anyone has — devastated. sad to hear. sad to hear anyone has been _ devastated. sad to hear. sad to hear anyone has been diagnosed - de

you can just see how morally bankrupt that he is. he's trying to appeal to my fellow citizens in terms of their economic interests and not among them were about more principal or ethical integrity or the damage done. the precious human beings in those parts of the world. it's another, it's an example of trying to somehow hide and conceal the ugliness the under side of imperial policy by appealing to people's economic interest at home. we already know of it. if we really want to tell the whole story, at this point is $0.62 for every dollar that goes to the military. industrial complex united states is not be clear, a war based on its congress since world war 2. every military incursion has been proceeding out of the executive order without congressional approval. and that's been democrats, republicans across the board. but that's what empires do like the roman empire, like the autumn on in bar. we can go and i know the military overreach of broad corruption of the lead in america. that's the case of both parties. citizens feeling desp

you can just see how morally bankrupt that he is. he's trying to appeal to my fellow citizens in terms of their economic interest that not a moment we're about more principal or ethical integrity or the damage done to precious human beings in those parts of the world. it's another, it's an example of trying to somehow hide and conceal the ugliness. be under side of imperial policy by appealing to people's economic interest at home. we already know of it and we really want to tell the whole story. at this point is $0.62 for every dollar that goes to the military. industrial complex united states is not be clear in a more based on its congress since world war 2, every military incursion has been proceeding out of the executive order without congressional approval. and that's been democrats, republicans across the board. but that's what empires do like the roman empire, like the autumn on in black. we can go and i know the military overreach abroad, corruption of the lead in america. that's the case of both parties. citizens feeling des

you can just see how morally bankrupt that he is. he's trying to appeal to my fellow citizens in terms of their economic interests and not among them were about more principal or ethical integrity or the damage done. the precious human beings in those parts of the world. it's another, it's an example of trying to somehow hide and conceal the ugliness the under side of imperial policy by appealing to people's economic interest at home. we already know of it. if we really want to tell the whole story, at this point is $0.62 for every dollar that goes to the military. industrial complex united states is not be clear, a war based on its congress since world war 2. every military incursion has been proceeding out of the executive order without congressional approval. and that's been democrats, republicans across the board. but that's what empires do like the roman empire, like the autumn on in bar, we can go on and on. the military overreach of broad corruption of the lead in america. that's the case of both parties. citizens feeling desp

you can just see how morally bankrupt that he is. he's trying to appeal to my fellow citizens in terms of their economic interests and not among them were about more principal or ethical integrity or the damage done to precious human beings in those parts of the world. it's another, it's an example of trying to somehow hide and conceal the ugliness the under side of imperial policy by appealing to people's economic interest at home. we already know of it and we really want to tell the whole story. at this point is $0.62 for every dollar that goes to the military. industrial complex united states is not be clear, a war based on its congress since world war 2. every military incursion has been proceeding out of the executive order without congressional approval. and that's been democrats, republicans across the board, but that's what empires do like the roman empire, like the autumn on in black. we can go and i know the military overreach of broad corruption of the lead in america. that's the case of both parties. citizens feeling desp

it's the moral authority and the need.this case, the right thing to do is also the smart thing to do. in 2024, the election is going to be about mobilization. there is no question that the biggest contest between the two parties is going to be who can get their voters out to vote. democrats have an enthusiasm gap today. the progressive alliance have fissures within their constituency that makes getting out to vote even more important. the biggest block to potential voters by far is low income and low wage voters. increased participation by even minuscule percentages, the ministers -- minuscule changes could be game changing in terms of the margin. it is a massive voter engagement that is unprecedented that is being started here today. what i say as a practitioner is it combines the essential elements of getting out there early. we are not coming in on october 31 and saying god, save the nation. we are grassroots engagement. charismatic national leaders which you see and powerful, local leaders which you see on the board an

the international market, it also concerns the military sphere, and the technological, intellectual, moraleological and so on. but let's see what 's behind the listing of all these numbers, and here, in my opinion, there are very important key points, well, firstly, i think you and i should see or hear. a phenomenon or a thought in the message is that today we are talking to you about a completely different approach to economic processes, well, look, you asked a question early on, which i would also like to try to answer answer, this whole amount of money is possible or not, why it didn’t exist before , and so on, we talked a lot about this, it’s like a balm for the soul, in fact , the president said it very clearly and clearly, and he made it clear, that from... there are answers to the questions, because today this amount of money does not even need to be counted, it is connected with one thing, that if we consider even analogues, but russia is developing in its own way, but studying the experience of our neighbors, and friends and foes, so here an increase in the money supply of 10 tril

morale is dangerously low, and our military over the past seven years, morale has declined to a dangerously low level. and no wonder we've got men and women who wear our uniform on food stamps. i'm going to correct that. i'm going to make sure our soldiers are well paid and well housed. morale is low because it seems like we're trying to be all things to all people in the world. we're overextended over deployed and undertrained. i'm not going to retreat. i'm going to help lead the world to peace, but i'm going to strengthen our alliances and at the same time say to our friends, if there's conflict in your area, you get to have the peace keeping mission. we're going to say to our friends, you get to put the troops on the ground to keep warring parties apart. america will be the peacemaker here in the world. morale is low because our veterans are saying out loud, where is the promise kept to the promise made? morale is low because soldiers in the uniform today wonder out loud in the cells. if our government has made a promise, will we keep it? after all, many veterans are saying the promise h

is high, the moral is high indeed, the american and british rais had no effect, and their missiles, nor their bombs will have any impact, nor will their warplanes, nor will their... their navy ships, they will have no impact on the moral of our beloved people, the muslim, the people of jihad, the free people, this will have no impact on the moral, even on children, it will have an, it will not have an impact on the will, it will not break the will of this people, this pe, this people takes an action based on their faith, it has been raised on faith, it has been raised on dignity, freedom and also honor. how people who are loyal who have the human sentiments, they have a long record in this regard, they have strong determination, the serious stands and the sincere will and the sincere stands, whatever the attempts of the enemy to tanish, this won't have any impact, because god knows the sincerity of the people and because station of this is very clear, it's very clear like the sun in the day, so the enemies via the escalation won't have any impact neither on the capabilities nor on t

we don't have the moral right to do this.— moral right to do this.e to join _ moral right to do this. and why did you decide to join those _ moral right to do this. and why did you decide to join those protests? | you decide to join those protests? it is obviously a very brave decision tojoin it is obviously a very brave decision to join those protests in the wake of mr navalny�*s death. i the wake of mr navalny's death. i think it is important to participate in protests in europe because we should... i think it is necessary to put pressure on the international community and local politics, because they have to stop... sorry to stop you — because they have to stop... sorry to stop you that — because they have to stop... sorry to stop you that but _ because they have to stop... sorry to stop you that but we _ because they have to stop... sorry to stop you that but we have - because they have to stop... sorry to stop you that but we have a - because they have to stop... sorry to stop you that but we have a lot of time, thank you very much for joining u

morality, integrity.e for morality in a moment of overwhelming barbarity, because that's the kind of world we're living in. and we see the fascism on the move everywhere, latin america, africa, middle east... ..united states... let's just... ..sweden, hungary, we can go on and on. let's just get back to the... ..to the raw mechanics of a presidential run, cos last year you decided you were going to run... that's right. ..for the white house. if i just look at what has happened since then, it looks like chaos. you've been through three party affiliations. you started out representing the people's party, then you decided you were going to have the green nomination for president, the green party, then you abandon that, now you've set up a new party, justice for all, which you say is going to have a nomination process and you are going to lead that party into the election. you've said, "you know what, don't expect me to be predictable. politics is like jazz." that's right. but that isn't really the way it wor

it was a moral form of reparations. i call it a eugenic will moment in history because it sought to resocialize white people to radically different types of people, to making them into nonracist by telling them how they could and cannot use their property. today racism is an evil. if there any forms of racism committed against blacks, those claims can be brought before courts of law. financial compensation can be administered to the victims of racism. host: as a philosopher, what is your thought on that effort in 1964 to change white people sensibilities? guest: it was heavy-handed but it was proper. i am an independent conservative who belongs to no particular party. i reject the conservative claim that america was never a white supremacist country, that we never had an ideology of white supremacy and america was never a racist country. that is a bunch of malarkey. it is an insult to black people who have suffered tremendously at the hands of white supremacist and racist law that singled out blacks because of their rac

detroit and atlanta to suburbs and small towns, which are insisting on taking a moral stand, words like apartide and ethnic cleansing, which were once heavily censored in public life, are now being voted into the public record, and you would wish that people um in positions of power do things, do the right thing, because they are the right things, because they're the moral thing to do, that doesn't always have. the united states was the only member on the united nations security council to vote against sease fire and they have paralyzed the security council on the issue of the genocide in gaza. as congressman in washington reportedly refused even engage with palestinian activists, city councils have become the primary place with political power which will discuss the issue and reflect the historic. it really shows that when you vote for progressive politicians, progress does happen, we not only saw vote um for seasfire, but we saw vote for solidarity and community building as well, the seasfire vote is not only for the palestinian people, it's for all communities. the local resolutions

losses, those were killed and injured and the damage which is affecting them morally. to a large degreeign of their failure, when the diplomatic course begins to be activated and the negotiations are activated and this is happening clearly today, this is clear proof of the desperation on the part of the israelies, although they are speaking arrogantly, and also it shows the desperate situation of the americans, despite the fact that the americans are also speaking as an arrogant way, but their situation doesn't allow them to continue with this intensity of the aggression. till for an indefinite indefinite period, the israelis are used to quick wars, are not used to long, very long wars, which continue indefinitely, and the state of exhaustion of their army is clear, and we see in many cases military contingents are withdrawn to once again fill up and repair their ranks, this means that their army is in a state of exhaustion. they're not used to long wars which don't stop every day there are confrontations, they also have their domestic problems and also large economic and moral losses a

in other words, you can say something that is factually correct to your moral beliefs, in previous versions of america you had every right to say such things, but because someone doesn't like them or because they are inconvenient for furthering the agenda of the people in power, they can be declared misinformation, you may be deprived of the right to express them, whether in person. or online, moreover, in such statements may be found to constitute a crime, which is what happens, and it is important to note that it is not only the private sector that is doing this, these efforts are led by the us government, for which you pay, at least in theory they are responsible to you, but they take away your rights at record speed, most people understand it intuitively, but they don't know how it happens, how censorship happens, what mechanisms are involved, mike bence is what we can confidently call: a world class expert on this subject. mike bence formerly worked in cybersecurity at the state department, he is now the executive director of the foundation for online freedom, and we will discuss with

"there is nothing honorable, nothing moral, nothing ethical about the anglo-zionist empire and israel is its nastiest, if you like like iteration, and the world can see this, so we all have our consciences to deal with here and say this world in which we live in which all of these oppressed nations and people in syria, in yemen, who've had half millions, have millions of millions of people have been killed in iran, the the eight year post war, in iraq, the the the the..." that the americans did in syria when they went into destroy a perfectly stable, decent country, libya, they've done it, so where are they left in west asia, which is uh, which is not litten with the bodies of children and women, this is evil barbaric force we're faced with, it's a it's a kind of a generational evil that that ultimately will only be be resolved through the show of equity in military might and defeat of israel on both military. diplomatic and other levels and it's going to be concerted ongoing struggle, if there's nothing short-term about having to destroy israel, it will take time because they are bac

i would like to say that morality today is a condition for the survival of modern human civilization. even have said more than once that when the lord visited me with the thought of building 200 new churches in the city of moscow, many people were skeptical about this, secular people, so what? conceal the church ones, citing the fact that they are no longer so full. churches in the center of moscow, and is it really necessary to pay attention to this now? maybe something else needs to be paid attention to, but by the grace of god, a firm conviction in the need to build churches in moscow was always accompanied in me by such an internal spiritual uplift, when i managed to do something a little along this path, i understood that the lord was strengthening me in my thoughts to continue. construction of these temples of god, and of course, when you visit such a temple, then there is joy in the heart, and gratitude to the lord for the fact that through this construction of the temple in moscow, he showed his miracle; such a large number of temples are not built in any metropolis in the wor

principles and moral code that everybody can believe in. thank you very much, i ask you both to stay with us while we cross on over to our reporter to see what is going on out there on the streets. bosan joins us right now uh from uh somewhere that he's located in tehran, so matty, tell us what's going on where you're at before i get into further questions with you, well cover, currently i'm at the azadi square in tehuan, and as you can see today on the 45th anniversary of the islamic revolution, it's victory, thousands of people from all walks of life have shown up, have taken to the streets, there have been 13 you rally r. across tehran in the capital uh that people since 9 a.m. in the morning uh went there and started the uh rallies and walk towards this destination azadia square next to me is the place where iran's president ibrahim raisi is going to deliver a speech on this occasion uh minutes later now uh about the things that we saw here uh apart from the presence of uh people in this year's rally like the previous years uh there wer

but the incredible moral change that they go through, like over from like decade to decade.and yet the the the well, not really necessarily conviction, but the fervency often intolerance that accompanies it. how do you have a fixed moral conviction if like the very individuals that we're talking about have a view on a fraught moral issue or political issue, 180 degrees from what he or she himself had ten years ago. and i think a lot of that is because many of them don't have a fixed view. they go along with the sort of the spirit of the age, which is they're, i guess what and i'm not sure a lot of them are aware of that. but i think for those of us who dissent from approach, maybe not every particular moral conclusion, but just the approach you really need to have, especially because this is this is not like you're going to go up like saint benedict, maybe into the mountains and hope things will turn out better. and there i mean, that's not fair to say, benedict, but you know what i mean? like, you're going off into a cave on the edge of the irish coast and you're hoping the

i love evangelicals will look at atheists and say you can't be a moral atheist because you have no moralramework. a lot of atheists say evangelicals are immoral because they don't allow women to preach and they are anti-lgbtq. morality is a shifting sand. one side throws insults at the other side. if you look at the data, most americans do say you can be moral and not be religious. there tends to be some tolerance in that direction. still a significant number of religious people, people who go to church on a regular basis do think you need to be religious in order to be moral. host: brad in louisiana, nonreligious. you've got to mute that television. caller: sorry. host: go ahead. caller: the whole idea of religion is a human construct. if we look at the evolution of homo sapiens, we find that it wasn't until the neolithic period that we started getting the various gods. whether there is a god or not, there is no way to prove it. we need to turn to science. as we look at science -- i am a phd biologist -- we see through animal behavior the same kind of behaviors in humans, that we see in

it was a moral form of reparations. call it a eugenic will moment in history because it sought to resocialize white people to radically different types of people, to making them into nonracist by telling them how they could and cannot use their property. today racism is an evil. if there any forms of racism committed against blacks, those claims can be brought before courts of law. financial compensation can be administered to the victims of racism. host: as a philosopher, what is your thought on that effort in 1964 to change white people sensibilities? guest: it was heavy-handed but it was proper. i am an independent conservative who belongs to no particular party. i reject the conservative claim that america was never a white supremacist country, that we never had an ideology of white supremacy and america was never a racist country. that is a bunch of malarkey. it is an insult to black people who have suffered tremendously at the hands of white supremacist and racist law that singled out blacks because of their race.

aspect of the zionist entity, the moral rectitude, the bubble of moral rectitude has burst open, absolutely for the world to see very clearly that this idea that design." city and it's sort of the moral army, the so-called, it's not a moral army, it's more malevolent army with many other people a terrorist organization, or what i would call the telmudic terrorist, they have actually shown the world that the hypocrisy, the uh the wesel words that were used to sort of get away with all kinds of henous crimes over the last. '75 years and even before have really become very clear, that's why you see uh you know ordinary people, thinking people, people with heart in their chest are actually saying that zionism is equal to racism, zionism is equal to terrorism, zionism equal to you know immorality, unethical attitude, lack of integ'. all the things that one could use are now becoming very clear and this is the sort of what i call the brand israel is now losing its luster and those weasal words definitely were not lost on the international court of justice um dr patel it is very difficult to see h

in other words, you can say something factually consistent with your moral beliefs.sions of america, you had every right to say such things, but because someone didn't like them, or because they were inconvenient to implementation of the plans of people in power, they can be declared disinformation. and you may be... accountable to you, but they are taking away your rights at record speed, most people understand this intuitively, but they don't know how it happens, how censorship happens, what mechanisms are involved. bence is someone who can confidently be called a world- class expert on this subject. mike bence previously worked in cybersecurity at the state department and is now the executive director of the foundation for online freedom, and we will discuss one very specific type with him. censorship. by the way, we highly recommend that if you want to know how this happens, mike bend b is the one to read. but today we want to talk about a special type of censorship, about the censorship that is carried out by our military. industrial complex. our defense industr

aspect of the zionist entity, the moral rectitude, the bubble of mobile moral rectitude has burst open absolutely, for the world to see very clearly. that this idea that the design entity and is sort of the moral army, the so-called, it's not a moral army, it's more a malevolent army, or any other people a terrorist organization, you know, or what i would call the telmudic terrorist, they have actually shown the world that the hypocrisy, the uh, the weesle words that were used to sort of get away with. all kinds of henous crimes over the last 75 years and even before have really become very clear, that's why you see you ordinary people, thinking people, people with heart in their chest are actually saying that zionism is equal to racism, zionism is equal to terrorism, zinanism equal to uh you know immorality. unethical attitude, lack of integrity, all the things that one could use are now becoming very clear, and this is the sort of what i call the brand israel is now losing its luster, and those weasal words definitely were not lost on the uh international court of justice. um, dr. pa

a lot of evangelicals look at atheist and say you can't be a moral atheist because you have no moralework and a lot ofa atheist say evangelicals are because they don't allow them to. she and they are anti-lgbtq so for once i'd throwing insults at the other side. if you look at the data most americans do say you can be moral and not be religious. there does tend to be some tolerance in that direction but a significant number of religious people to go to church on a regular basis thank you need to be religious in order to be moral. >> brad in shreveport louisiana nonreligious. you've got to that television. >> sorry. >> go ahead. >> the whole idea of religion is a human construct. if we look at the evolution of of homo sapiens we find that it the dealdash that we started getting various so whether there is a god or not there's no way to prove it. we need to turn to science and as we look at science and i'm a ph.d. biologist, we see animal behavior and the same kind of behaviors in humans that we see in other animals. so unless -- >> brad, in what way? in what way? where their similarit

human comfort and moral wealths for more people.hodses and new things in development stage and create new opportunities, new jobs, moral wealth for all in the years to come. television, the wings of tomorrow. new types of houses, air-conditioning, streamline train and a number of things will be developed because of this nation's imperishable heritage of life and the pursuit of happiness, it is this that has given us all of the industrial progress that we have achieved in the past and certainty of progress in the future. a certainty a long as this great gift of liberty, individual liberty to grow better and better is valued and protected. you are descendants of pioneers but you are also pioneers, opportunities still rise from every smokestack, every test tube, every laboratory, every workshop in the land. you have come a long way from the blacksmith shop and hand labor that day but your journey forward has just started because this is america. where do we go from here? >> straight ahead and don't spare the losses. >> i wonder what ou

he is is certainly prefer only morally opposed to enslavement. but he is his response to to douglas's invocation of popular sovereignty is also that this is in fact a national issue that should be decided by by the people by by by one nation. not not by local majorities. you referred now and in your remarks before the national majorities. and i wanted to delve into that a bit, because it's true that madison and lincoln were both focused on the the importance and the sovereignty of national majorities under our constitution. but it wasn't national majorities for their own sake so much in either case. right. madison, when he's urging the creation. of a new constitution that empowers national majorities, so much of it is for the of protecting individual liberty in the states to make sure that the states are the factions aren't oppressing individuals in the states. and the same with lincoln of choruses for his first inaugural he's calling for national democracy. one of the key examples he uses is national democracy for the sake of overcoming the dred

i love evangelicals will look at atheists and say you can't be a moral atheist because you have no moral framework. a lot of atheists say evangelicals are immoral because they don't allow women to preach and they are anti-lgbtq. morality is a shifting sand. one side throws insults at the other side. if you look at the data, most americans do say you can be moral and not be religious. there tends to be some tolerance in that direction. still a significant number of religious people, people who go to church on a regular basis do think you need to be religious in order to be moral. host: brad in louisiana, nonreligious. you've got to mute that television. caller: sorry. host: go ahead. caller: the whole idea of religion is a human construct. if we look at the evolution of homo sapiens, we find that it wasn't until the neolithic period that we started getting the various gods. whether there is a god or not, there is no way to prove it. we need to turn to science. as we look at science -- i am a phd biologist -- we see through animal behavior the same kind of behaviors in humans, that we see

president biden believes it is the morally correct thing to do.hat the slaughter of jews on october 7 has to be met with a response. it's not retaliation or revenge but a response for the sake of the people of israel and their future that prevents this from ever happening again or anything like it, that prevents hamas from emerging as the victors here, the president sees not just israel and its future as tied to that outcome in which hamas is not able to project itself as the winner, he sees it as important for the region as a whole and is actually correct to do that. as well as for broader u.s. interests. but at the core comments because he believes it is the right thing to do. >> it's not rare among american presidents but it is extraordinary the degree of moral clarity that the president has brought to the israeli trauma. this is where it gets extremely complicated. it's harder to bring the same sort of moral clarity, not to hamas but to the exponential rise of palestinian deaths in gaza, it's a hard sort of balance to maintain. >> it is. it is