morteza makki, an expert on european issues, and then with mrs.eh ekwan, an expert on american issues, mr. makki, i say hello to the world today. i am also at your service and dear viewers. hello, we had two new positions, the last four or five days, from joseph. brour and another from emanuel macron regarding the zionist targeting of the destruction of hamas, which is basically their justification for the continuation of the war . and now the talks of the french president amman macron yesterday. je pense qu'on est à un moment où les autres. l'autorités israelines vont devoir definir plus precisely leur objective et l'état final rechercher. the total destruction of hamas, what is it that is possible? si c'est ça, la guerre durera 10 ans, et je crois que nobody ne sait definir sérieusement cet objective, donc il faut que cet objective soit soit precisisi. well, let's start our conversation. mr. mackey. at the beginning of the war, we saw that the authorities and the americans absolutely supported the zionist goal of destroying hamas, what happened?