the dw is chief political editor, mr. clifton told us that a lot of discussion in munich is not just happening on panels and stages. well, it's also described as the biggest, one of the biggest speed dating events for diplomats and 50 heads of state and foreign ministers here. um, hundreds of diplomats and the real action. i mean i've reported to you on what's been happening on stage, but there are hundreds of meetings going on and lot of them will never become public in the car. it was here among parties that probably otherwise wouldn't even public the speak to each other. so the real outcome we never really learn. one thing is for soul and no progress on the rest of us. so wasn't even invited to, didn't get a seat at the table, and it was also seen as confirmation when at the very beginning of this conference, news came in of the death of alex st. now found the opposition ve the inverse of his death and his wife speaking here on stage demanding body move. who is he's being brought to justice over this that and the route since he is new talking to us at this point in time. interesti