caller: am not sure how mr. doran can sit the with a straight face.eveling apartment buildings. they killed three of their o soldiers who had white flags out. they are not a professional force d theyre not acting like a democracy. why is it when we give the hamas numbers according to the defense ministry and when we givehe israel numbers, we take it for grand? i don't know that it is 1400 people. they said th beheaded 40 babies. that was be dunked -- that was debunked. why do we think that israe is telling the trh but not hamas? we can call them freedom fighters. why do we call them terrorists? host: lucy put a lot out there. we are running short on time. mr. doran: is referencing a different -- lucy is referencing a different reality. in the bush white house when we put the israelis out of gaza, on the theory that they were not occupying gaza, we saw what actually happened there. mr. rubin: hamas being in control ofaza is a terrible disservice to the people of their -- disservice to the people who lived there. most people in gaza would be alive word