mr. maybarduk , it's been made persuasively. clearly patents are part of the free-market system as though you intellectual property and you and sent creativity. whether it is being abuse is another issue. you think it is legislations sponsored by john cornyn to do away that. i think without intellectual property we would not have this innovation. why would you? what would you put the time into it? dr. lakdawalla makes a persuasive point that without the profit incentive, you will not get the innovation. are you disputing that? >> i am not. >> the degree of the profit- taking, if you will? i will point out the three examples you gave seem to be all medicare patients and there is legislation out there which will cap the out-of-pocket exposure to -- for medicare patients. i think it will be $2000 in june of 2025 and catastrophic portion is going away now. but, that said, somebody is paying. yes, insurance makes it more affordable. medicare is making it more affordable, but somebody is paying. in my state, i was told that pharmaceut