mr. sabet? guest: smart approaches to marijuana was founded a year or two after i left the obama administration. i served on many administrations because it is nonpartisan. we started with patrick kennedy, and it is also funded by scientists and researchers around the country to talk about marijuana in a sensible, science-based way, and rejecting the false dichotomy between legalization and commercialization, and on the one side, criminalization on the other. paul and i would agree that we don't think people should be criminalized, arrested, or given criminal records for low-level possession of marijuana or something you plant in your backyard or whatever. the the answer does not have to be commercialization with promotion. we have a scientific advisory board of top researchers who are researching marijuana, and our policy is focused on that. host: mr. armentano. guest: we were founded many years ago to represent the right and interest of responsible adult cannabis consumers. we do not represent