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willis and mr. wade. you didn't tell murtha there was anything patently false in that because you didn't see anything patently false in that relationship, as relates to the relationship. >> repeat your question. i'm so sorry. >> you did not inform mrs. merchant that there was anything patently false in that motion that was -- that you were presented with as it concerns the relationship because you did not see anything that was patently false, correct? >> objection. asked and answered cumulative. >> next question, mr. stockton. sustained. >> you didn't see anything that was speculative in there either, did you? >> asked and answered. >> sustained, mr. stockton. >> i want to ask you one more question. i'm coming at it from the other way that mr. sadow did. did anybody from the district attorney's office or any witnesses in this case contact you about mrs. merchant's motion from january 8 of 2004 until today? >> did anyone contact me about her motion? >> yes. from the district attorney's office or any witnes
willis and mr. wade. you didn't tell murtha there was anything patently false in that because you didn't see anything patently false in that relationship, as relates to the relationship. >> repeat your question. i'm so sorry. >> you did not inform mrs. merchant that there was anything patently false in that motion that was -- that you were presented with as it concerns the relationship because you did not see anything that was patently false, correct? >> objection. asked and...
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willis. mr. sadow: thank you, your honor, i understand. going back to live in court, when you say you do not have personal knowledge, what i want to ask you to start with is very simple. did you have communications with mr. wade about the relationship between mr. wade and ms. willis? it is a simple yes or no. mr. bradley: yes. mr. sadow: and is it your testimony that during the time you are representing him, which i understood started in 2018, is that correct? mr. bradley: that is the timeframe that i remember, yes. mr. sadow: is it your testimony under oath that with regards to conversations with mr. wade about his relationship with ms. willis, that she had only one such conversation during the time you represented mr. wade? mr. bradley: one conversation of what? i apologize. mr. sadow: the only thing i'm asking about is that area the court said is not privileged, the relationship between mr. wade and ms. willis. you have testified that during the time you represented mr. wade from 2018 on that
willis. mr. sadow: thank you, your honor, i understand. going back to live in court, when you say you do not have personal knowledge, what i want to ask you to start with is very simple. did you have communications with mr. wade about the relationship between mr. wade and ms. willis? it is a simple yes or no. mr. bradley: yes. mr. sadow: and is it your testimony that during the time you are representing him, which i understood started in 2018, is that correct? mr. bradley: that is the timeframe...
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willis and mr. wade? you didn't you didn't tell her that there was anything patently false in that because you didn't see anything patently false in that motion as it relates to the relationship repeat your question. >> i'm so sorry. >> you did not inform mrs. merchant that there was anything patently false? in that motion that was that you were presented with as it concerns the relationship because you did not see anything that was patently false, correct? objection. asked and answered. cumulative. >> our next question, mr. stockton? to stand. >> and you didn't see anything that was speculative in there either digital, an answer came within a sustained. mr. stockton >> i just want to ask you one more question i'm coming out from the other way that mr. sadow did. did anybody from the district attorney's office or any witnesses in this case contact you about ms merchant's motion from january the eighth of 2004 until today >> did >> anyone contact me about her motion? >> yes. from the district attorney's of
willis and mr. wade? you didn't you didn't tell her that there was anything patently false in that because you didn't see anything patently false in that motion as it relates to the relationship repeat your question. >> i'm so sorry. >> you did not inform mrs. merchant that there was anything patently false? in that motion that was that you were presented with as it concerns the relationship because you did not see anything that was patently false, correct? objection. asked and...
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2021, that would show that both miss willis and mr. wade had lied under oath. you knew that, don't you? >> i think that's going to call for an opinion on the credibility of another testifying witness. i don't think that would be an appropriate question. >> then that's all i have, your honor. >> mr. stockton. >> just briefly, judge. >> we'll see. >> mr. bradley, do i understand from your prior testimony that miss merchant sent you a motion to review prior to her filing it? >> objection. cumulative answers. >> i'm going to give him just a little bit, all right? mr. stockton. maybe this is going somewhere else. >> did miss merchant send you a motion prior to january 8th of 2024 for you to review? >> that is correct. >> and did you in fact review that motion? >> that is correct. >> and did you indicate to miss merchant that the contents of that motion seemed okay to you? >> well, so, you're referring to exhibit 27, which as i stated a few minutes ago, one is an e-mail. one is a text chain. so in the text chain, i never responded to the e-m
2021, that would show that both miss willis and mr. wade had lied under oath. you knew that, don't you? >> i think that's going to call for an opinion on the credibility of another testifying witness. i don't think that would be an appropriate question. >> then that's all i have, your honor. >> mr. stockton. >> just briefly, judge. >> we'll see. >> mr. bradley, do i understand from your prior testimony that miss merchant sent you a motion to review prior to...
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willis and excuse me, that ms willis and mr. wade rule >> we didn't discuss how we were going to handle testimony of my question was, when you were discussing with ms willis in the conference room when you were discussing? what you perceive to be the situation concerning the benefits for the payments? yes, sir. >> was there anyone else present? no, sir. >> how long did the meeting take >> probably five or ten minutes >> if ms willis tell you what she was going to say? >> no, sir. >> did you ask her whether she had any bank withdrawals? it would corroborate the assertion that that she would pay you back and large sums of cash for these these trips to the caribbean believes california on and on and on. >> your honor, i object the processor of when the last mental projection was made was that mr. guillen needed to know who else is there are these? he witnesses that you can cross examine. that question, hasn't answered. >> okay. >> i think it's still exploring possible bias or motive to shape his testimony. so overrule on that groun
willis and excuse me, that ms willis and mr. wade rule >> we didn't discuss how we were going to handle testimony of my question was, when you were discussing with ms willis in the conference room when you were discussing? what you perceive to be the situation concerning the benefits for the payments? yes, sir. >> was there anyone else present? no, sir. >> how long did the meeting take >> probably five or ten minutes >> if ms willis tell you what she was going to...
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willis and mr. wade met in a conference in october of 2019. >> i object to that for how this witness would know that. if miss merchant shay has personal information about that that's something the witness can testify to. >> all right, miss merchant. lay the foundation. >> do you have information that ms. willis and mr. wade met in october of 2019? >> renew my objection. information is not personal information. if the question can be rephrased it may address my concern. >> i want to make sure i understand. they have objected to me calling willis and wade. >> just a matter of foundation, just rephrase. >> do you have knowledge of when willis and wade met? >> object again. personal knowledge. >> overruled. >> thank you. >> do you have personal knowledge of when willis and wade met? >> yes. she told me they met at a conference. i don't know what conference. >> renew my objection. this is not information from this witness. hearsay that was -- >> she said she told me. >> statement against interest, judge.
willis and mr. wade met in a conference in october of 2019. >> i object to that for how this witness would know that. if miss merchant shay has personal information about that that's something the witness can testify to. >> all right, miss merchant. lay the foundation. >> do you have information that ms. willis and mr. wade met in october of 2019? >> renew my objection. information is not personal information. if the question can be rephrased it may address my concern....
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. >> mrs. willis? >> i never -- my only interaction with mrs. willis was never where i would pick up the phone and talk to her or that she would -- or anything like that. >> so you didn't hang out with mrs. willis? you didn't have a personal relationship with her? >> i never had a personal relationship. i mentioned before, i went to a dinner that was after she was elected. that was at a steakhouse. it was some 75 to 100 people there. >> you knew of her. you didn't have a business or personal relationship with her or at least a close one? >> i knew of her from my -- she was in the da's office. i had criminal cases. but i did not personally know her, no. >> not having known her, not really hanging out with her, you've got a contract from her office. >> i'm going to just object as to cumulative, asked and answered. >> i think we covered this ground on the 16th about the contracts. do you have -- are you going somewhere else with this? >> i am, judge. if you give me latitude. >> you may proceed. >> you got a contract from the office not knowing -- o
. >> mrs. willis? >> i never -- my only interaction with mrs. willis was never where i would pick up the phone and talk to her or that she would -- or anything like that. >> so you didn't hang out with mrs. willis? you didn't have a personal relationship with her? >> i never had a personal relationship. i mentioned before, i went to a dinner that was after she was elected. that was at a steakhouse. it was some 75 to 100 people there. >> you knew of her. you didn't...
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and then how is that going to impugn mrs. willis? >> i don't know if whether or not she knew she was giving him that benefit. that's what i was trying to explore. >> okay. maybe we can start with that question and if she doesn't know about it, the ins and outs of the contracts wouldn't be as relevant. >> just to lay a foundation for that -- >> see where it takes us. go aheads. >> the two gentlemen that were in mr. wade's us a, did they have what i think has been referred to as a taint contract? >> let me be clear. i'm going to get the names wrong. when i first became d.a., the office was not properly staffed. so i did -- i'm spliced any lawyer would take it. i did a contract for like $60 an hour to help us out with first appearance. that lasted a few months. okay? so i can't remember if bradley or campbell had that. i'm sure we can have records and i can tell you which one. i can't remember now. i like their experience. one had been -- bradley was a probation office. campbell was a police officer an a defense attorney. a reason i'm t
and then how is that going to impugn mrs. willis? >> i don't know if whether or not she knew she was giving him that benefit. that's what i was trying to explore. >> okay. maybe we can start with that question and if she doesn't know about it, the ins and outs of the contracts wouldn't be as relevant. >> just to lay a foundation for that -- >> see where it takes us. go aheads. >> the two gentlemen that were in mr. wade's us a, did they have what i think has been...
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willis and mr. weighed coming to your office in security details following that, do you recall that? >> let me look at my phone. >> i think i did. >> do you recall security taking ms. willis to your office. >> i object to that. >> answer the question. >> i do recall security detail bringing ms. willis to my office. >> do you recall when that was? >> i do not. >> was that on more than one occasion? >> i remember two occasions. >> can you tell me about those. >> i can't remember when they were. [indiscernible] >> i don't know if she had security detail before she was d.a. or sworn in. i don't remember the dates. but i do remember -- i think she was d.a. >> during her transition period? >> no. it wasn't -- trying no, it wasn't -- trying to remember. she would have had to have been the d.a., i think. and i don't want to go i think, but i do remember twice her coming to our office, correct. >> and she had a security team both of those times? >> there was a -- yes. she had a security team with her. >> ok.
willis and mr. weighed coming to your office in security details following that, do you recall that? >> let me look at my phone. >> i think i did. >> do you recall security taking ms. willis to your office. >> i object to that. >> answer the question. >> i do recall security detail bringing ms. willis to my office. >> do you recall when that was? >> i do not. >> was that on more than one occasion? >> i remember two occasions. >>...
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willis -- mr. wade and miss willis meeting at the evans office together?> object to asked and answered. >> we haven't had an evens answer. >> his answer may change. >> tip him off how to answer the question. >> i can't recall what the conversation was. i do -- i do recall knowing that they would -- that he would go down to the office or had been down to the office but i can't tell you in what capacity or when or any of that, no. >> mr. wade told you that they had sex at that office, though, correct? >> i don't recall him stating that, no. >> you don't recall it. >> no. >> so it's possible he did say that. >> you just don't remember one way or another. >> i don't remember him saying that. >> do you recall that he had a garage door opener to either a house or condo or something like that of miss willis's? >> i've never seen a garage door opener. i've never been to miss willis's house. i've never been to -- i'm trying to explain. i've never been, so no, i do not have any personal knowledge of him having a garage door opener. >> i didn't ask whether you had pe
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now, mr. willis -- excuse me, mr. wade, when you were having this discussion, did you ask her -- did you ask ms. willis do you have anything to support these cash withdrawals? >> no, sir. >> did you ask her where she got the cash? >> this is the conversation. i produced my credit card statement that showed what ms. merchant in her filing was representing. that was the conversation. >> okay. so when she would pay you back in cash, were you aware of what her financial situation was? do you know what- >> no, sir. >> your honor, i object to the relevance. >> well, your honor, it's relevant because we have been bombarded with a book find me the votes in which -- >> what's at issue is the financial benefit and if that plays a material interest in an actual conflict of interest, so i think that's relevant. >> now, have you read the book "find me the votes"? >> i have. >> you have? >> i have. >> okay. now, in that book, ms. willis is telling the authors about how financially destitute she was or kind of hitting down on the bo
now, mr. willis -- excuse me, mr. wade, when you were having this discussion, did you ask her -- did you ask ms. willis do you have anything to support these cash withdrawals? >> no, sir. >> did you ask her where she got the cash? >> this is the conversation. i produced my credit card statement that showed what ms. merchant in her filing was representing. that was the conversation. >> okay. so when she would pay you back in cash, were you aware of what her financial...
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willis and mr. weighed coming to your office in security details following that, do you recall that? >> let me look at my phone. >> i think i did. >> do you recall security taking ms. willis to your office. >> i object to that. >> answer the question. >> i do recall security detail bringing ms. willis to my office. >> do you recall when that was? >> i do not. >> was that on more than one occasion? >> i remember two occasions. >> can you tell me about those. >> i can't remember when they were. [indiscernible] >> i don't know if she had security detail before she was d.a. or sworn in. i don't remember the dates. but i do remember -- i think she was d.a. >> during her transition period? >> no. it wasn't -- trying no, it wasn't -- trying to remember. she would have had to have been the d.a., i think. and i don't want to go i think, but i do remember twice her coming to our office, correct. >> and she had a security team both of those times? >> there was a -- yes. she had a security team with her. >> ok.
willis and mr. weighed coming to your office in security details following that, do you recall that? >> let me look at my phone. >> i think i did. >> do you recall security taking ms. willis to your office. >> i object to that. >> answer the question. >> i do recall security detail bringing ms. willis to my office. >> do you recall when that was? >> i do not. >> was that on more than one occasion? >> i remember two occasions. >>...
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now, mr. willis -- excuse me, mr. wade, when you were having this discussion, did you ask her, did you ask miss willis, do you have anything to support these cash withdrawals? >> no, sir. >> did you ask her where she got the cash? >> here -- this is the conversation. i produced my credit card statement that showed what miss merchant in her filing was representing. that was the conversation. >> ok. so when she would pay you back in cash, were you aware of what her financial situation was? did you know what -- >> no, sir. >> your honor, i object to the relevance. >> your honor, it's relevant because we have been bombarded with a book "find me the votes." >> what's at issue is the financial benefit and if it's a material interest in conflict of interest, i think it's relevant. >> had you read the book "find me the votes." >> i have. >> you have. >> i have. >> ok. now, in that book miss willis is telling the authors about how financially destitute she was or kind of hidden down on the bottom as she was running for d.a. >>
now, mr. willis -- excuse me, mr. wade, when you were having this discussion, did you ask her, did you ask miss willis, do you have anything to support these cash withdrawals? >> no, sir. >> did you ask her where she got the cash? >> here -- this is the conversation. i produced my credit card statement that showed what miss merchant in her filing was representing. that was the conversation. >> ok. so when she would pay you back in cash, were you aware of what her...
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let's watch this. >> district attorney fani willis. >> mrs. willis, how did you know to come in to the courtroom right then? >> there were people -- i was in my office. i heard someone yell this testimony is done. it made sense to me that i would be your next witness. i've been very anxious to have this conversation with you today. i ran to the courtroom. >> as soon as you heard that mr. wade was done testifying, that's -- you assumed you would be the next witness? >> it makes sense. >> did you listen to any of the testimony? >> i've been in my office pacing, ma'am. >> did you listen to the arguments? >> i did hear the arguments this morning. it's ridiculous to me that you lied on one day and yet here we still are. i did listen to that argument. >> all right. so that was it? just the argument? no testimony? >> i listened to the argument this morning where adam i thought did an excellent job. on how dishonest you were with the court monday. i'm surprised that the hearing continued. since it did, here i am. >> great. so let's talk about -- first
let's watch this. >> district attorney fani willis. >> mrs. willis, how did you know to come in to the courtroom right then? >> there were people -- i was in my office. i heard someone yell this testimony is done. it made sense to me that i would be your next witness. i've been very anxious to have this conversation with you today. i ran to the courtroom. >> as soon as you heard that mr. wade was done testifying, that's -- you assumed you would be the next witness?...
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mr.over by a state trooper, and then, ultimately, taken into custody. his van is then secured and taken to a location where it can be searched. he walks in very relaxed, you know, sort of matter of fact. >> jeffrey willis was a worker at a furniture manufacturer in nearby spring lake. he worked the overnight shift. >> he was well under the radar. he had no criminal history. he was a middle-aged guy, married. >> kind of your normal, ordinary person in the community. a regular guy next door. >> willis grew up in michigan, attending high school in uskegon county. he has a daughter from a previous relationship. >> turns out he's also a grandfather. >> he has no criminal history, but a work history of being a janitor at two local elementary schools back in the '90s. according to school district records, willis was eventually fired for allegedly using a school computer to look at adult websites. >> he appears to want to cooperate. you know, it's like, "oh, man, what, what's this all about?" and
mr.over by a state trooper, and then, ultimately, taken into custody. his van is then secured and taken to a location where it can be searched. he walks in very relaxed, you know, sort of matter of fact. >> jeffrey willis was a worker at a furniture manufacturer in nearby spring lake. he worked the overnight shift. >> he was well under the radar. he had no criminal history. he was a middle-aged guy, married. >> kind of your normal, ordinary person in the community. a regular...
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wade about fani willis? >> could you repeat your question. >> did you ever talk to mr. wade about fani willis during the time of march, 2020 one to november 1 of 2021? did you know they were dating? did you ever socialize with mr. wade. >> as far as being employed. >> did you ever go out to eat with mr. wade? >> on occasion he would take the office out to lunch. >> beyond that, did you go to a nightclub or drinking with him? >> no i did not. >> whatever relationship mr. wade have with mr. willis, you don't have personal knowledge, correct? >> i do not have personal knowledge. >> thank you very much for being here. >> when he started in march of 2021, was that just you gave him a resume and you started working there? >> i don't understand the question. >> when you started working there, is it a situation where your first day on the job was the first day you may have met him or shortly before you met him? >> again, i don't understand what you are asking. >> let me back up. did you know mr. wade or any of his partners prior to march of 2021? >> yes, i did. >> how did you k
wade about fani willis? >> could you repeat your question. >> did you ever talk to mr. wade about fani willis during the time of march, 2020 one to november 1 of 2021? did you know they were dating? did you ever socialize with mr. wade. >> as far as being employed. >> did you ever go out to eat with mr. wade? >> on occasion he would take the office out to lunch. >> beyond that, did you go to a nightclub or drinking with him? >> no i did not. >>...
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willis and mr.wade met in october of 2019? >> i'm going to renew my objection, if the question can be rephrased, that may address my concern. >> so judge, let me -- i just want to make sure i understand. they've objected to me calling willis and wade. >> it's just a matter of foundation. if you can just rephrase. >> do you have knowledge of when willis and wade met? >> i'm going to object. personal knowledge. >> overruled. >> do you have personal knowledge of when willis and wade met? >> yes. she told me that they met at a conference. i don't know what conference. >> i'm going to renew my objection, clearly this is not firsthand information from this witness. it's hearsay -- >> but she said she told me. >> yes, it's statement against interest judge. >> just pause. i'm sorry. >> okay. ms. cross. >> the representation of the witness, the testimony of the witness was that ms. willis, district attorney willis had a conversation with her. there is no statement against interest. district attorney willis i
willis and mr.wade met in october of 2019? >> i'm going to renew my objection, if the question can be rephrased, that may address my concern. >> so judge, let me -- i just want to make sure i understand. they've objected to me calling willis and wade. >> it's just a matter of foundation. if you can just rephrase. >> do you have knowledge of when willis and wade met? >> i'm going to object. personal knowledge. >> overruled. >> do you have personal...
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willis did all the talking. mr. wade did not. >> we exchanged pleasantries, but as far as the basis of the conversation, the reason i was there was willis. >> would you be able to give us an estimate how long this meeting lasted? roughly. >> probably an hour. >> during the meeting you made it clear, it was the thanks for the offer but no thank you. >> oh, yes. i did. as i said -- i started off as a prosecutor. and for about 10 or 15 years i did nothing but criminal. but i have tried to move away from it. and do primarily civil math. we have done some white collar cases over in federal court. i've one over there right now. but it's generally business related. where i have a client that's got a kid or him getting indicted. and the case i have over there now is an alleged fraud case. >> fair to say that based on your career and the work that you have done, you have handled high profile cases, correct? >> i have. i've handled pretty big cases. i sued syria one time for beheading a client of mine. recovered $83 million.
willis did all the talking. mr. wade did not. >> we exchanged pleasantries, but as far as the basis of the conversation, the reason i was there was willis. >> would you be able to give us an estimate how long this meeting lasted? roughly. >> probably an hour. >> during the meeting you made it clear, it was the thanks for the offer but no thank you. >> oh, yes. i did. as i said -- i started off as a prosecutor. and for about 10 or 15 years i did nothing but...
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i don't recall. >> but you know miss willis was there and mr. wade was there. >> it was at our office. actually, miss willis was there and there were other people there. mr. wade was not in that meeting. he was, he was -- in the back. i wasn't even in that meeting. >> why did she hold it at your office then? >> i have no idea. >> you also remember telling me about them spending time together at her law office before she took her job. >> i don't recall. do you -- i don't recall. do you have something to -- >> well, what i'm asking is, so let's back up a sec. so miss willis rented a law office from evans firm. or andrew evans and another lawyer, i think stacy evans. t you have knowledge of that, correct? >> object to hearsay. how does he know the information. that would be the correct question. >> okay. >> i don't really know how to even respond to that. hearsay. i'm asking if he knew she rented -- >> they may have been there. >> right. >> may have seen a business card at some point. >> i've never been to miss willis' office when she was in privat
i don't recall. >> but you know miss willis was there and mr. wade was there. >> it was at our office. actually, miss willis was there and there were other people there. mr. wade was not in that meeting. he was, he was -- in the back. i wasn't even in that meeting. >> why did she hold it at your office then? >> i have no idea. >> you also remember telling me about them spending time together at her law office before she took her job. >> i don't recall. do you...
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willis, and mr. desantis. >> i think mr. desantis was, too. >> as far as whether there was anyone elset there -- >> i don't. >> thank you. >> next time i'll take a picture. >> next time hopefully you won't have to be here. >> hopefully not. >> thank you, sir. >> mr. stockton. >> no questions. >> thank you. mr. durham. >> no questions, your honor. >> mr. mcdougall. >> no question from the governor, your honor. >> mr. rice. >> no questions, your honor. >> mr. gillian. i have been waiting for this. >> i couldn't give up the chance getting up here, governor. good to see you again. we have worked together in the past. >> i consider you to be one of my best friends and crackerjack lawyer. >> will i say to you on the -- will i say to you on the record i can understand why they came to see you because you are the finest lawyer i ever worked with. >> i need to put you in the next ad. >> one or two more questions. you and i working together when it's appropriate, we have had no qualms about filing motions to disqualify the d.a., have
willis, and mr. desantis. >> i think mr. desantis was, too. >> as far as whether there was anyone elset there -- >> i don't. >> thank you. >> next time i'll take a picture. >> next time hopefully you won't have to be here. >> hopefully not. >> thank you, sir. >> mr. stockton. >> no questions. >> thank you. mr. durham. >> no questions, your honor. >> mr. mcdougall. >> no question from the governor, your honor....
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willis saying here is my record, $10,000 in cash to mr. wade. we need to know that. also, miss willis financial disclosure. we are talking about two people that went to extraordinary lengths to find -- to hide their relationship. extraordinarily. district attorney taking the stand and taking this court and this court will file financial disclosures in 2022 identifying the stories. have they seen all of this? you have seen all of the things around $10,000 in cash. for the financial declaration for 2021 and the financial declaration of 2022 which was filed may 2023. there is no listening of any whatsoever over $100. it cries out for her testimony. needing to get out here and say why did you not tell us disclosure forms for the nature of the relationship between sources and the public official. hiring somebody for $1000 and none of that is revealed. he has explained it all in cash. obviously there are advocates in this position. she needs to go on record. she filed this motion. we have seen what happened here. we need to have the full picture serious business of anybody
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willis did all the talking. mr. wade did not. >> we exchanged pleasantries, but as far as the basis of the conversation, the reason i was there was willis. >> would you be able to give us an estimate how long this meeting lasted? roughly. >> probably an hour. >> during the meeting you made it clear, it was the thanks for the offer but no thank you. >> oh, yes. i did. as i said -- i started off as a prosecutor. and for about 10 or 15 years i did nothing but criminal. but i have tried to move away from it. and do primarily civil math. we have done some white collar cases over in federal court. i've one over there right now. but it's generally business related. where i have a client that's got a kid or him getting indicted. and the case i have over there now is an alleged fraud case. >> fair to say that based on your career and the work that you have done, you have handled high profile cases, correct? >> i have. i've handled pretty big cases. i sued syria one time for beheading a client of mine. recovered $83 million.
willis did all the talking. mr. wade did not. >> we exchanged pleasantries, but as far as the basis of the conversation, the reason i was there was willis. >> would you be able to give us an estimate how long this meeting lasted? roughly. >> probably an hour. >> during the meeting you made it clear, it was the thanks for the offer but no thank you. >> oh, yes. i did. as i said -- i started off as a prosecutor. and for about 10 or 15 years i did nothing but...
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okay >> did mr. wade tell you about the trips that he and ms willis truck? >> no. >> you have any knowledge of the trips that he and ms willis took? >> objection. hearsay. >> overruled >> i do. now but you did not be for this proceeding >> i did not know until you text that you found that in the deposition of his divorce? i may not not deposition, but something from his divorce >> okay. >> and when you responded, doesn't surprise me. they took many trips to florida, texas, california. those are your words. the right to object through he's taken it did not know any actually learn from his merchant the information. >> he said he learned about certain trucks from ms merchant's. >> okay. you can tie it down, but thank you. >> will see no information about any trip that ms willis and mr. wade took that he learned all from his merchant that was his testimony. sure. >> judge. i'm allowed to conclusion. we reach i think she's going to ask more than one question though >> all right. ms merchant's and if judge, just so we can be clear, if he said more than one version
okay >> did mr. wade tell you about the trips that he and ms willis truck? >> no. >> you have any knowledge of the trips that he and ms willis took? >> objection. hearsay. >> overruled >> i do. now but you did not be for this proceeding >> i did not know until you text that you found that in the deposition of his divorce? i may not not deposition, but something from his divorce >> okay. >> and when you responded, doesn't surprise me. they...
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willis mr.ade met in the conference in octobeo object that for a foundation of how she that she had personal information of them and suddenly something the witness can testify too. >> all right miss merchant laid the foundation for. >> do you have information that ms. willis and mr. wade met in october 2010? >> 2010? >> renew my objection information is not personal information the question can be rephrased that would address my concern. >> subject i want to make sure i understand. they have objected to me calling but. >> is matter foundation if you can rephrase. >> and do you have a knowledge of when willis and wade met question because i'm going to object again personal knowledge but. >> overruled. >> thank you. >> to personal knowledge of when willis and made wade at metz? >> yes she told me they met at a conference. at that conference residents renew my objection clearly this is not information from that witness is hearsay. she told me. >> it's a statement against interest. >> 's cross? >> t
willis mr.ade met in the conference in octobeo object that for a foundation of how she that she had personal information of them and suddenly something the witness can testify too. >> all right miss merchant laid the foundation for. >> do you have information that ms. willis and mr. wade met in october 2010? >> 2010? >> renew my objection information is not personal information the question can be rephrased that would address my concern. >> subject i want to make...
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willis, did not have a personal relationship with her? mr. bradley: no, i never had any personal relationship. i mentioned before that i went to a dinner that was after she was elected that was at a steakhouse, but it was 75 200 people there. >> so you knew of her, you just did not have a business relationship or personal relationship with her, at least a close one? mr. bradley: she was in the das office and i had criminal cases, but i did not personally know her, no. >> not having known her, not really hanging out with her, you got a contract from her office. >> i am going to object. asked and answered. judge mcafee: i think you covered this ground on the 16th about the contracts. are you going somewhere else with this? >> i am, judge, if you would give me a little latitude. judge mcafee: you may proceed. >> you got a contract from the office not knowing or having a good working business relationship with ms. willis? mr. bradley: correct. >> that's because nathan wade steered that contract to you. mr. bradley: i do not know how it came about
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social trips that ms willis and mr. wade took together >> no >> you aware of any social trips that ms willis and mr. wade took together in 2022? >> no >> are you aware of them in 2024, 2021, extending the evening together overnight? >> no >> mr. guillen know like mr. mccullough and mr. chroma of questions you're on this cross i. >> do ask some questions. thank runner. >> is already we haven't met before. is that correct >> correct. >> you're able to see and hear me. okay >> yes. all right. >> i want to start with a couple of things now. i think you've made it clear that you never lived and we'll call it the south fulton address. the south fulton condo that you releasing you never lived at that address with the district attorney willis, correct? >> permanent. >> and never at anytime? >> never. all right >> you never observed or have any information about district attorney wade and district attorney willis and nathan wade living together, correct >> correct. >> you have any information about that? >> no, i don't. >> anybo
social trips that ms willis and mr. wade took together >> no >> you aware of any social trips that ms willis and mr. wade took together in 2022? >> no >> are you aware of them in 2024, 2021, extending the evening together overnight? >> no >> mr. guillen know like mr. mccullough and mr. chroma of questions you're on this cross i. >> do ask some questions. thank runner. >> is already we haven't met before. is that correct >> correct. >>...
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willis and mr. we will sort it outline as you the rest of the week unfolds. i want to turn to the "special report" classified documents, byron. real pushback from the white house. >> the president himself about what was in that report, the special counsel hur's report. here's what he said in part about that. >> there is even reference that i don't remember when my son died. how in the hell dare he raise that. frankly, when i was asked the question, i thought to myself, it wasn't any of their damn business. >> bret: well, we have confirmed this nbc news report now. biden attacked hur for asking when bo dyed. but hur never asked that question. according to two people familiar with hur's five-hour interview with the president over two days last october. it was the president, not hur or his team who first introduced beau biden's death, they said. >> we don't have the transcript but we have a confirmed that element of the story, byron. >> that was the emotional core of the president's pushback. we all kn
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. >> and so miss willis had not told you about mr. wade prior to that? >> absolutely not. >> she didn't tell you anything about their relationship before you met him that day? >> no. >> but mr. wade remembers meeting you in 2020? >> he said that at my daughter's swearing in, i do remember that we were having some banter about fraternities, but other than that -- >> your daughter's swearing in, okay. >> right. >> that's all i have. one moment, judge. >> good morning, sir. >> good morning, how you, counsel? >> i'm fine. i'm trying to ask you some specific questions if we could, okay? >> i'll give specific answers if i can. >> perfect. >> okay. >> the driver's license address, i'm not going to publish that is state's exhibit number 2, is the address on that driver's license the home that you are referring to as your daughter's in south fulton? >> absolutely. >> okay. it was unclear to me, maybe no one else, it is unclear to me, when did you stop living at what i would call your daughter's home in south fulton? >> things got so bad and threats got so many, e
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da willis selected mr. wade to be a special prosecutor on this case because he hasn't experienced attorney and she trusted his judgment and i will stop for a minute and let's let's apply a little common sense here. >> if >> the defense thought that mr. wade was an incompetent attorney is was just suggested. wouldn't they want him to stay on the case and my opponent here also mentioned that ms willis could have hired anyone. >> well, that's not true. you heard testimony today in court from the former governor of georgia, who was asked first a number of people were asked before ms willis went to mr. wade, would they take this role? would they be a special prosecutor? and they said no. and you can understand why someone would hesitate. the amount of public pressure and hatred and threats that anyone is going to get if they say yes to this assignment. this isn't a favor. it's an imposition >> and we heard today also from final says father, who spoke specifically to that, and i think we can listen to a little of
da willis selected mr. wade to be a special prosecutor on this case because he hasn't experienced attorney and she trusted his judgment and i will stop for a minute and let's let's apply a little common sense here. >> if >> the defense thought that mr. wade was an incompetent attorney is was just suggested. wouldn't they want him to stay on the case and my opponent here also mentioned that ms willis could have hired anyone. >> well, that's not true. you heard testimony today...
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willis and nathan wade were carrying on a secret relationship. mr.remove mr. wade, mrs. philips, and her entire office from the case. mr. roman contends that nathan wade was not qualified to the job on d. a. willis's team but miss willis hired him anyway ensuring that he will receive a generous salary and financial benefits thanks to their alleged relationship. now, today, 176 page court filing, fani willis is offered a detailed response to those allegations. first, she confirmed that yes, she and nathan wade had a, quote, personal relationship in addition to their, quote, professional association and friendship. miss willis said the relationship began after she hired mr. d. a. to join her team. mike roman claims that mr. wade was paid by mrs. willis's office to finance vacations he and that d. a. took together. financial responsibility for personal travel taken is divided evenly between the two and all expenses or paid for it with individual personal funds. in other words, they were going dutch. after that claim that nathan wade was not qualified fo
willis and nathan wade were carrying on a secret relationship. mr.remove mr. wade, mrs. philips, and her entire office from the case. mr. roman contends that nathan wade was not qualified to the job on d. a. willis's team but miss willis hired him anyway ensuring that he will receive a generous salary and financial benefits thanks to their alleged relationship. now, today, 176 page court filing, fani willis is offered a detailed response to those allegations. first, she confirmed that yes, she...
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it is a lot, miss willis. you see. >> mr.does a prosecutor in a criminal case get questioned under oath by the defendant's attorneys. but it was clear long ago the election interference case against donald trump and 14 others now is no typical prosecution. we're talking about professionalism. >> no. are we talking about professionalism? she put in three different documents. he lived with me for opportunity to respond. >> a defiant fani willis testified that she and nathan wade dated for about a year after she brought him in, as a special prosecutor, but they've done nothing improper, she says, and she did not benefit financially from the relationship. wade testified his marriage was irretrievably broken in 2015, but he and his wife decided to stay together until their children were out of school. when did your romantic relationship with miss willis begin? >> 2022. when in 2022, early 2022, that would have been after he was hired by willis to manage the racketeering case against donald trump and others, wade said the two didn'
it is a lot, miss willis. you see. >> mr.does a prosecutor in a criminal case get questioned under oath by the defendant's attorneys. but it was clear long ago the election interference case against donald trump and 14 others now is no typical prosecution. we're talking about professionalism. >> no. are we talking about professionalism? she put in three different documents. he lived with me for opportunity to respond. >> a defiant fani willis testified that she and nathan wade...
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if sanctions will remain as they are, i don’t think that... direct quote: many times entertained mrs. entertained him, end of quote, well, that is, they were lovers, as they now report until 2023, until may, as at least , maximum until august, but this no longer matters, they repeatedly had a good time traveling together in the caribbean, florida and california, while... she was outraged by the assumption that she slept with her de facto subordinate, hardly not on the first day of our acquaintance, she called what was happening a lie, well, that is, not on the first day, while the very fact of the existence of a connection did not refute, everything would be fine, the matter, as they say, is a young, everyday thing, but the handsome nathan, who, by the way, has a legal wife and.. . denies everything, says that he is in no way involved in the legal prosecution of his competitor. well, now the sweet couple from wade and willis is facing a criminal case for misuse of budget funds. trump himself is preparing for the priimaris war, where he plans to win a convincing victory, and then go to
if sanctions will remain as they are, i don’t think that... direct quote: many times entertained mrs. entertained him, end of quote, well, that is, they were lovers, as they now report until 2023, until may, as at least , maximum until august, but this no longer matters, they repeatedly had a good time traveling together in the caribbean, florida and california, while... she was outraged by the assumption that she slept with her de facto subordinate, hardly not on the first day of our...
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roman was essentially this fani willis was in a romantic relationship with mr. wade first, mr. wade, a man who's never prosecuted a felony. criminal trial, was then chosen by fani willis, according to the defendants because of that relationship to lead this massive case. and then as a result of that, mr. wade has been paid hundreds of thousands of dollars, some of which have made their way to fani willis indirectly through vacations and that sort of thing. the counter narrative that the da chose to pursue is no, no, no. he was hired for his merits. there was no pre-existing romantic relationship kinship, but after he was hired, the relationship develop these things happen. there was never any sort of plan or intentionality about it. so the question of when was an important issue to begin with. and now it's amplified many times over because the da has taken a very strong under oath position that it did not start until after the question to me, jake is who will the judge credit? will the judge credit that scene that we just saw from mr. bradley? i don't recall. i don't recall. it
roman was essentially this fani willis was in a romantic relationship with mr. wade first, mr. wade, a man who's never prosecuted a felony. criminal trial, was then chosen by fani willis, according to the defendants because of that relationship to lead this massive case. and then as a result of that, mr. wade has been paid hundreds of thousands of dollars, some of which have made their way to fani willis indirectly through vacations and that sort of thing. the counter narrative that the da...
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miss willis, you say mr. >> rarely does a prosecutor in a criminal case get questioned under oath by the defendant's attorneys. but it was clear long ago the election interference case against donald trump and 14 others now is no typical prosecution. we're talking about professionalism. >> no. are we talking about professionalism? she put in three different documents. he lived with me for opportunity to respond. >> a defiant fani willis testified she and nathan wade dated for about a year after she brought him in as a special prosecutor, but they've done nothing improper, she says, and she did not benefit financially from the relationship. wade testified his marriage was irretrievably broken in 2015, but he and his wife decided to stay together until their children were out of school. when did your romantic relationship with miss willis begin? >> 2022. when in 2022, early 2022? >> that would have been after he was hired by willis to manage the racketeering case against donald trump and others. wade said the two didn't travel together before then and they roughly split vacation expens
miss willis, you say mr. >> rarely does a prosecutor in a criminal case get questioned under oath by the defendant's attorneys. but it was clear long ago the election interference case against donald trump and 14 others now is no typical prosecution. we're talking about professionalism. >> no. are we talking about professionalism? she put in three different documents. he lived with me for opportunity to respond. >> a defiant fani willis testified she and nathan wade dated for...
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now, even never trump legal experts throwing water on mrs. willis' case, questioning trump's judgment but perjuring state ricoh's statue with a crime boss whose enterprise subverting democracy? that is quite another. the willis investigation was a political vendetta and it was a travesty from the get-go. there are plenty of lowlife radicals across the country who want trump off of the political scene, but they shouldn't have the power to prosecute and be paid by state taxpayers or have any power to interfere with the 2024 presidential election because that election interference and that is "the angle." karoline leavitt the press secretary for the trump campaign. caroline, one of the presidents thoughts about this hearing? >> well, president trump has long said this family willis case is a sham. it has no legal basis and it should be dismissed. today the entire world got to see that president trump is 100% right, even msdnc the legal analysts over there and joe biden's own propaganda network admitted family willis had a very bad day. but more
now, even never trump legal experts throwing water on mrs. willis' case, questioning trump's judgment but perjuring state ricoh's statue with a crime boss whose enterprise subverting democracy? that is quite another. the willis investigation was a political vendetta and it was a travesty from the get-go. there are plenty of lowlife radicals across the country who want trump off of the political scene, but they shouldn't have the power to prosecute and be paid by state taxpayers or have any...
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and against that you have mr. wade and mrs.ring what i thought was quite credible testimony. we could all describe what we thought we were fairly odd or fairly unusual elements of it. but i thought, on the whole, they were on the stand for hours . they were consistent, and i thought they're mostly mo credible. >> let's remind everyone what fani willis had to say when -- of not just donald trump but, it was a rico case. there's lots of other individuals in august. let's remind folks. let's play this. >> i make decisions in this office based on the facts of a the law. the law is completely nonpartisan, that is how decisions are made in every case. to date, this office has indicted, since i've been sitting as the district attorney, over 12,000 cases. this is the 11th r. i. c. o. indictment. we followed the same process. we look at the facts, we look at the law, and we bring charges. >> joyce, let's go back today and separate the legal aspect of this from the optics. t our colleague charles coleman pointed out that there are two wa
and against that you have mr. wade and mrs.ring what i thought was quite credible testimony. we could all describe what we thought we were fairly odd or fairly unusual elements of it. but i thought, on the whole, they were on the stand for hours . they were consistent, and i thought they're mostly mo credible. >> let's remind everyone what fani willis had to say when -- of not just donald trump but, it was a rico case. there's lots of other individuals in august. let's remind folks. let's...
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, mr. way, didn't make the best choice here, but ultimately the legal standard is we've all discussed is very high and they're not really that close to it. and ultimately, he is giving the defense a lot of rope to ask a lot of questions. but when they keep asking the same questions over and over and it's apparent that they're not make their points are not going to get to where they need to go in this motion. he is doing a very good job of shutting things down because as you pointed out in the beginning, this is basically desperate housewives sort of thing, right? this is a real ultimately a salacious salacious hearing that's going to potentially influenced potential jurors. so once we get past the useful point of this it's his job to shut this down so that ultimately we don't have further taint that's on a jury pool because first of all, i need you to know desperate housewives and then the real housewives were not one was starring eva longoria. the other one is because we're in georgia, nen
, mr. way, didn't make the best choice here, but ultimately the legal standard is we've all discussed is very high and they're not really that close to it. and ultimately, he is giving the defense a lot of rope to ask a lot of questions. but when they keep asking the same questions over and over and it's apparent that they're not make their points are not going to get to where they need to go in this motion. he is doing a very good job of shutting things down because as you pointed out in the...
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willis of hiring mr. wade in order to enrich herself with lavish vacations and other gifts mr.bought for ms. willis. in a legal filing two weeks ago d.a. willis admitted to having a relationship with mr. wade, saying it began only after she hired mr. wade to work on this case in 2022. now, today's hearing began with an explosive allegation from a former friend of d.a. willis who claimed willis has lied about when the relationship began. >> you have no doubt that their romantic relationship was in effect from 2019 to the last time you spoke with her? >> no doubt. >> did you observe them do things that are common among people having a romantic relationship? >> yes. >> such as? can you give us an example? >> hugging, kissing, just affection. >> that was a balk shell of the morning. fani willis and nathan wade potentially lied to the court in their filings about when their relationship began. the rest of the hearing mostly revolved around the question did fani willis benefit financially from her relationship with nathan wade? mr. wade was next to take the stand, and he told the cou
willis of hiring mr. wade in order to enrich herself with lavish vacations and other gifts mr.bought for ms. willis. in a legal filing two weeks ago d.a. willis admitted to having a relationship with mr. wade, saying it began only after she hired mr. wade to work on this case in 2022. now, today's hearing began with an explosive allegation from a former friend of d.a. willis who claimed willis has lied about when the relationship began. >> you have no doubt that their romantic...
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>> when i started dating mr. wade. it was right around then april 2020 22 around the i don't know, like it's not like when you're in grade school, when you send a little letter and he says, will you be my girlfriend and you check it? >> then there's the money trail defense attorneys pressing on whether or not weighed paid for willis, where the two vacation together, trying to suggest that he used money he made from his taxpayer funded contract at the da's office. and willis both maintained that they split their vacation expenses so all of the vacations that she took, she paid you cash for >> yes, ma'am. willis >> confirming the same in her testimony because we went out multiple times that probably went to the level of more than $100. but if we're doing for tat like that, i probably paid for as many meals as he paid for and so i did not receive any gifts from him. >> and at times forcefully pushing back with the defense attorney, who first launched the allegations. >> these people are on trial for trying to steal an ele
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wade and miss willis. when you're talking about mr.ting that something of this magnitude could have happened, no, i don't think that would have been reasonable to expect. but as you saw things began to unravel, this was the situation that, sir, you needed to take care of before now. in terms of miss willis, with everything on the line with regard to this case, i don't know that with as many eyes and ears that you have on you, this is the decision that you make with one of your assistants who is on the same case. that being what it is, it is important to understand that these are two separate things but they are impacting one another. to your point, we are here in large part because of how messy mr. weeds divorce proceedings were and how that ended up affecting what is the professionalism that is being called to question. >> a man like that is in control of his divorce proceedings. if you give the mother of your children what she is asking for, the problem goes away. >> it does, but in this case i think one of the things of people who h
wade and miss willis. when you're talking about mr.ting that something of this magnitude could have happened, no, i don't think that would have been reasonable to expect. but as you saw things began to unravel, this was the situation that, sir, you needed to take care of before now. in terms of miss willis, with everything on the line with regard to this case, i don't know that with as many eyes and ears that you have on you, this is the decision that you make with one of your assistants who is...
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. >> this speaks at the heart of mrs. willis' integrity and her credibility and her judgment making as a prosecutor. >> reporter: trump's defense team wants willis removed from the election interference case or the charges against him dismissed. >> this is getting ugly, it's getting messy, and my guess is it's not going to get better. >> reporter: a consequential week in the courtroom for the former president. >> and today we are expecting a decision in trump's civil fraud case. the former president faces a $370 million fine and a lifetime ban from the real estate industry in new york. marcus, laura. >> all right, this is one certainly to continue to follow. thank you for the update. >>> also happening today, a south bay man accused of shooting and critically injuring a police officer is due for a court hearing. it happened last summer. he attacked his pregnant wife and then ambushed responding officers. that's when one officer was shot and her partner dragged her to safety. she then spent more than two months in the hosp
. >> this speaks at the heart of mrs. willis' integrity and her credibility and her judgment making as a prosecutor. >> reporter: trump's defense team wants willis removed from the election interference case or the charges against him dismissed. >> this is getting ugly, it's getting messy, and my guess is it's not going to get better. >> reporter: a consequential week in the courtroom for the former president. >> and today we are expecting a decision in trump's...
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willis in cash, do you?sir. >> not a single, solitary one. >> not a one. >> for the judge, does that line of questioning accomplish anything or not, leslie? >> so, i think it could accomplish something if the defense has evidence to the contrary. so, if, for example, there are records, and they have them or are able to get them that reflect that these witnesses are not being candid, that would have consequences. but i think that the fact that there's maybe no evidence of the money changing hands by itself is kind of a meaningless fact unless there's some evidence suggesting that's actually not true. >> each of you have drawn our attention to the law and what the issues are, and even though manny may come at it from a different perspective, each of you have been more narrow than the line of questioning today. which at times was just all over the place. a casual observer might say, what is going on in atlanta? manny, this is, however, still planned as a trial of a former president. each of these trials would b
willis in cash, do you?sir. >> not a single, solitary one. >> not a one. >> for the judge, does that line of questioning accomplish anything or not, leslie? >> so, i think it could accomplish something if the defense has evidence to the contrary. so, if, for example, there are records, and they have them or are able to get them that reflect that these witnesses are not being candid, that would have consequences. but i think that the fact that there's maybe no evidence of...