farid johnson, what does it mean for free public discourse it public officials can informally intimidate or influence editorial decision-making such as in a hearing such as this and? >> the critical thing is that it cannot be coercion. we want to ensure the first amendment protections that are afforded to news workstations, for example, are maintained and so that would mean that there cannot be that level of influence can go but again, we believe the government has an important role to play in terms of public discourse. >> thank you so much, ms. johnson, i appreciate your time. i yield back. >> we will do one more round of questions before we break. recognized the gentleman fromi' north carolina. >> thank you,ck mr. chairman. i don't think i people go into investigative reporting to get rich. i think it's an incredibly importantt service. i don't think being held in on tempt civilly or criminally is either a a conspiracy theory or b part of an employment. you're either civilly in -- that's what the contempt mean. if there's more chilling effect on right for north dakota citizens to be in