inflated interest rates ms. thompson: ms. thompson:. high interest rates are very impactful. >> what are the impacts? two they care? it's a national issue. we don't -- ms. thompson: what i said is we do talk -- >> it seems like you cannot, what your job? how can you not be forceful in saying i am an advocate for housing. your policies are killing us. please listen to me, i don't hear that from you. i'm sorry. you are in charge of examination for risk management. is that correct? ms. thompson: that is correct. >> you enforce capital requirements on the bank. ms. thompson: they do. >> he spoke about $300 billion to be able to -- about 100. they are making progress. the problem is, as long as they are undercapitalized, it allows a whole lot of other things. in your position as a risk management officer, would you allow the banks to engage in new activities? ms. thompson: the banks would have to submit to regulators. >> the question is, if you had banks that are severely undercapitalized and they wanted to expand, would you go along with it

inflated interest rates ms. thompson: ms. thompson:.igh interest rates are very impactful. >> what are the impacts? two they care? it's a national issue. we don't -- ms. thompson: what i said is we do talk -- >> it seems like you cannot, what your job? how can you not be forceful in saying i am an advocate for housing. your policies are killing us. please listen to me, i don't hear that from you. i'm sorry. you are in charge of examination for risk management. is that correct? ms. thompson: that is correct. >> you enforce capital requirements on the bank. ms. thompson: they do. >> he spoke about $300 billion to be able to -- about 100. they are making progress. the problem is, as long as they are undercapitalized, it allows a whole lot of other things. in your position as a risk management officer, would you allow the banks to engage in new activities? ms. thompson: the banks would have to submit to regulators. >> the question is, if you had banks that are severely undercapitalized and they wanted to expand, would you go along with it?

ranking member thompson. ranking member thompson. ranking member thompson votes aye. ms.jackson-lee both aye. mr. payne votes aye. mr. swalwell votes aye. mr. correa votes aye. mr. carter votes aye. mr. thanedar votes aye. mr. magaziner votes aye. mr. ivey votes aye. mr. goldman votes aye. mr. garcia votes aye. mrs. ramirez votes aye. mr. menendez votes aye. ms. clarke votes aye. ms. titus votes aye. >> are there other members in the room who wish to have their vote recorded? how am i recorded? >> you are not recorded. >> i vote no. >> chairman greene votes no. 15 ayes in 18 no's. >> the nose habit and the amendment is not agreed to. the committee postponed a recorded vote on amendment 16 offered by the ranking member mr. thompson on which the nays have prevailed by voice vote. the question occurs on agreeing to the amendment and the clerk will call the roll. mr. mccaul votes no. mr. higgins votes no. mr. guest votes no. mr. bishop votes no. mr. gimenez votes no. mr. pfluger votes no. mr. gabourey no votes no. ms. greene votes no. mr. gonzalez votes no. mr. la lota votes

[laughter] >> january 6th with you -- ms. thompson and there's a lot of questions i have that -- that thomas asked some. but there's a lot of questions that i think american people want to know about january 6th why was jim jordan and excluded? why wasn't they cross-examination? why wasn't ms. pelosi in charge of security along with the sergeant why wasn't she there and cross examined and ray epps another people seen escorting people in? a lot of questions, but, of course, we've got a question here those that are just diversions. question we have got here is -- mr. mayorkas, secretary mayorkas and whether he's fit or -- for the job and what really baffles me ms. thompson said thank you give more resources as if that's a -- that the reason the problem we've got at the border is because that resources. if secretary mayorkas is not going led the border patrol do their job, why would you give them more money? they're just not going to do it. you would agree with that. money is not going to cure this you mention electronic devices

[laughter] >> january 6th with you -- ms. thompson and there's a lot of questions i have that -- that thomas asked some. but there's a lot of questions that i think american people want to know about january 6th why was jim jordan and excluded? why wasn't they cross-examination? why wasn't ms. pelosi in charge of security along with the sergeant why wasn't she there and cross examined and ray epps another people seen escorting people in? a lot of questions, but, of course, we've got a question here those that are just diversions. question we have got here is -- mr. mayorkas, secretary mayorkas and whether he's fit or -- for the job and what really baffles me ms. thompson said thank you give more resources as if that's a -- that the reason the problem we've got at the border is because that resources. if secretary mayorkas is not going led the border patrol do their job, why would you give them more money? they're just not going to do it. you would agree with that. money is not going to cure this you mention electronic devices

ranking member thompson? ranking member thompson votes no. ms. jackson lee? ms. jackson lee votes no. mr. pain? mr. pain votes no. carter? mr. carter votes no. mr. magaziner? mr. ivy? mr. ivy votes no. mr. garcia? mr. garcia votes no. mrs. ramirez? mrs. ramirez votes no. mr. menendez? mr. menendez votes no. ms. clark? ms. clark votes no. missed titus? missed titus votes no. >> how is the chair recorded? >> the chair is not recorded. >> the chair votes aye. >> report the tally? >> there were 18 ayes and 14 nos. >> the tabling motion stands and that motion is moved to the table. without objection, click report that amendment and nature of the substitute personal .a amendment in the nature of a substitute for 863 offered by mr. green of tennessee. without objection, the reading is dispensed with. i now recognize myself to explain the amendment and nature of the substitute. this is in the nature of a substitute and expansive the underlying resolution by 22 articles of impeachment. article one relates to secretary mayorkas's systemic refusal to apply the law and numbe

ms. perez: i yield back. chair thompson: i thank the gentlelady. recognize the gentleman from south dakota, mr. johnson, for five minutes. mr. johnson: thanks, mr. secretary, for being here. you had and i have had productive conversations in the paft. managed forests are healthy. and unmanaged are tinderboxes. for a lot of different reason we have seen a lot of timber sales decrease. the last information i saw was 80 different units had failed to meet their harvest targets in the last five years. the black hills national forest this is important to us. we were proud to host the first federal timber sale in 1899. we have been dealing with these issues for a long time. what can we do together to better hit -- better provide these forests the treatment they need? secretary vilsack: i think two issues. one is the forest itself. i think our wildfire crisis strategy is directly designed to increase activity where it needs to be increased in order to reduce the risk of catastrophic fire. so continuing to invest in that system is important. you provide add

thompson: yes. ms. leger fernandez: refused to support the supplemental request and trying to sink the border bill because trump told them to sink the border bill? mr. thompson: disingenuous to say the board iris broken and to address those issues, you vote against them. and then, we get word that the president, former president is saying he is against the bipartisan bill, but he is for the impeachment of secretary mayorkas. none of that makes any sense. we have to put resources that our men and women need along the border. the technology is so important. it is a force multiplier for security. in order to do it, we have to invest in it in every opportunity. when we don't invest, we make that border a vulnerable situation. the secretary can only do with what the resources we provided. ms. leger fernandez: you keep saying it doesn't make any sense but it does make political sense if you want to run on this and have chaos because republicans seem to run on chaos. sadly we do know what an impeachable offens

ranking member thompson? ranking member thompson votes aye. ms. jackson lee? ms.kson lindley votes aye . aye. mr. carter? >> aye. >> mr. jan guard? votes aye. mr. magaziner votes aye. mr. i.v.? >> had 29. >> notes i. mr. garcia? mr. garcia votes nay. mrs. ramirez? mrs. ramirez votes aye. mr. menendez? mr. menendez votes country nine. ms. clark? ms. clark notes nine. missed titus? ms. titus votes aye . and ira carter? >> the chair votes no. >> chairman green votes no. >> house mr. garcia recorded? >> mr. garcia is recorded as having voted no. mr. garcia votes aye. >> the clerk will report the tally. >> chairman green, on that vote there were 14 ayes and 18 nos. that nos has it. that motion is not agreed to. you made that notion in the midst of your opening remarks. ranking member, i.e. done with your opening remarks? the gentleman yields. i think the ranking member. other members are reminded that opening statements may be submitted for the record. pursuant to notice, i now call up house resolution 863. the resolution was circulated in advance and printed copies ar

thompson: yes. ms. leger fernandez: refused to entertain the supplemental appropriations request sent to the hail in october and now as we have heard they are trying to sink the bipartisan border bill because trump told them to sink the border bill? mr. thompson: it is disingenuous to say the border is broken and when opportunities to put resources to address those issues, you vote against them. and then, we get word that the former president is saying he is against the bipartisan bill, but he is for the impeachment of secretary mayorkas. none of that makes any sense. we have to put resources that our men and women need along the border. the technology is so important. it is a force multiplier for security. in order to do it, we have to invest in it, and at every opportunity. when we don't invest, we make that border a vulnerable situation. the secretary can only do with what the resources we provided. -- we provide to him. ms. leger fernandez: you keep saying it doesn't make any sense , but it does mak

[roll call] [roll call]■0 ■l [roll call] ranking member thompson votes now. ms. jackson lee, mr.r. swallow well votes now [roll call] [roll call] [roll call] >> how is the chair recorded? >> the chair is not recorded. >> the chair votes aye. >> ms. jackson lee? >> not recorded.■ >> no. [roll call] the clerk will report the tally. >> on that voted there were 18e. >> the ayes have it, and the appeal of theg stands. the tabling motion stands. are there any amendments to the amendment and the nature of the substitute? >> amendment number 37.rder. >> a point of order is reserved and the clerk will distrib the amendment. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] amendment. >> amendment to the amendment in nature of a substitute to a hrs, number 037. page two, line two, strike quote, in his," and all that follows through page 20 9/11 insert the following. under president trump, several administrative administration officials failed to comply with subpoenas issued on homeland security to appear before congress to provide documents including one former department of homeland sec

thompson: i yield to the gentlelady from texas, two minutes, ms. jackson lee. ms. jackson lee: in the time we have had to debate one of the most sacred and deliberative responsibilities of the united states congress and that is impeachment proceedings, there has been not been one i oatha truth and/or facts that suggest that secretary mayorkas is in fact guilty of the articles of impeachment against him. one, the willful violation of the law, and the benefit to himself from anything that he might have done or that he did not do. but what it has done is given to this nation, a nation of laws and nation of immigrants the sense that you cannot flee naziism, cannot flee cuba and for more than two decades come to this country to serve your beloved adopted country. you cannot be the u.s. department of justice attorney or deputy secretary and now the secretary of homeland security without those who find it strange to have you lead in this way with your diversity. this is a question of stunts over solutions. the constitution was created to create a more perfect order and th

ms. holmes norton: i yield one minute to gentleman from mississippi. mr. thompson: i thank the gentlelady from the district for giving me the time. mr. speaker, i rise today in support of h.r. 4984, the d.c., robert f. kennedy memorial stadium campus revitalization act. this legislation presents an opportunity to revitalize the r.f.k. campus, a historic site that has served at the cornstone for over five decades. over the past two decades it has remained underutilized due to restrictions. they have limited the use of the r.f.k. campus to stadium purposes only leading to decline and erosion. this legislation focuses on transforming the r.f.k. campus into a mixed-use site which will create thousands of jobs. it ensures that district residents gain direct access to recreational opportunities, green spaces and walking trails along the riverfront. i urge my colleagues to join me in supporting this critical legislation. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from mississippi yields back. the gentlelady from d.c. reserves. the chair will receive a m

thompson: i yield to the gentlelady from texas, two minutes, ms. jackson lee. ms.s been not been one i oatha truth and/or facts that suggest that secretary mayorkas is in fact guilty of the articles of impeachment against him. one, the willful violation of the law, and the benefit to himself from anything that he might have done or that he did not do. but what it has done is given to this nation, a nation of laws and nation of immigrants the sense that you cannot flee naziism, cannot flee cuba and for more than two decades come to this country to serve your beloved adopted country. you cannot be the u.s. department of justice attorney or deputy secretary and now the secretary of homeland security without those who find it strange to have you lead in this way with your diversity. this is a question of stunts over solutions. the constitution was created to create a more perfect order and that is that under that constitution, precious rights fall under the fifth amendment and 14th amendment. due process. let me say, mr. speaker, this secretary of homeland security was

i do disagree with ms.she says that members of house have been asked to sit at the table during the senate negotiations. that is completely untrue. you've not been as, ranking member thompson is not been asked. these negotiations are taking place behind closed doors in secret, and we have no input whatsoever. member of to say thatat house republicans have refused to participate is just a complete misstatement of fact. i also disagree with my colleagues. we may argue whether not lying to congress should be impeachable, but i don't believe we can say that what secretary mayorkas has said time and time and time again is not untruthful, is not a lie. argue to close. mr. pflueger asked him in 2023 is aboard a aboard a more secure under your leadership then when youki start? the secretary said congressman, the border is secure. this is my time, mr. magaziner. i would like to read the statements of your homeland secretary who is misled congress repeatedly. i asked him, i asked secretary mayorkas are you saying tha

thompson. there's a lot of questions that i have that i think the american people want to know about january 6. why was jim jordan and mr. banks excluded? why wasn't he cross-examination. why wasn't ms. pelosi, who was in charge of security along with the sergeant at arms? why wasn't she there? why was ray epps and other people seen escorting people in? there are a lot of questions. but the question we have here is those were just diversions. questions we got here is on mr. mayorkas. secretary mayorkas, whether he's fit for the job. and what really baffles me, mr. thompson, i think you said give more resources as if that's a -- reason -- problem we have at the border is because they haven't had resources. if secretary mayorkas is not going to let the border patrol do their job, why would you give them more money? they are just not going to do it. you would agree with that, money's not going to cure this you mentioned electronic devices. it's only under this president that had we opened our bord

ms. leger fernandez: thank you. i have an amendment to the rule. i move the committee make in order amendment number 1 to house resolution 863 offered by ranking member thompson which inserts statements concerning the lack of due process afforded secretary mayorkas during the conduct of the homeland security committee's impeachment proceedings. mr. chairman, this sham impeachment didn't even pretend to offer secretary mayorkas due process rights that were afforded in every other impeachment. absent the literal insurrection attempt which we lived through and americans saw live on tv. the committee did not permit secretary mayorkas to present witnesses or cross examine witnesses, which was provided -- [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2024] >> we are going to leave this here to keep our commitment to live coverage of congress as the house is about to gavel in to begin debate on the issue we just sho