what do we know about the circumstances around his departure from mullis?an area we are not clear on. that is something it was a sensitive topic for mullis, a very prestigious investment bank where one of its senior bankers was really -- the firm is blindsided by this incident. we know they investigated the incident. he was put on leave and he resigned. we don't know the circumstances around the resignation, whether he was essentially pushed out, whether he resigned himself, but there are sensitivities around that now. sonali: partially also because of who he was. a lot of headlines say he was a millionaire banker who punched a woman. this is quite racially charged on both sides, wasn't it? todd: jonathan kaye is a jewish man who lives in brooklyn. this group of -- the group on the other side, some were wearing clearly palestinian supporting symbolism and clothing that evening. we are told this was a verbal altercation with regards to the israel-gaza conflict. that there -- it was part of the spark that led to the event. sonali: todd, thank you so much for