nataliya popovych, entrepreneur, international expert on communications and social activist, founderthe consulting group wang philosophy, she is in touch with us, we will add her to our conversation, ms. natalia, we congratulate you, today we celebrate two such... two such important events, yes, it is a day of remembrance and reconciliation and victory day, for the first time we celebrate it on the same day, well, actually we change even the design, yes, we change the perception, we change the symbolism of these days, how important do you think it is for society to get used to new, actually these attributes, these days, and what we must do in order to now to our younger generations and our future generations... still to put into their heads the correct symbolism of these days? and thank you very much, i am very glad to be with you today, it seems to me that it is extremely important to continue the efforts that we started at the time in 2014-15, when literally together with the symbolism of the red poppy, such a new, more aware country was sprouting in ukraine, krister, that is, when