khrystyna porubiy, nazar malnyk, espresso tv channel. good evening, congratulations, my name is myroslava barchuk, this is a self-titled program, a joint project espresso tv channel and ukrainian foam. today we will talk about... state awards, in particular about state awards, whether state awards can be independent of the state, of the ukrainian authorities, in our political culture, when the authorities have always not disdained what they oppressed or in some way i tried to influence the jury, the committees and somehow determine my people for awarding, in my studio yuriy makarov, writer, journalist, former chairman of the shevchenko prize committee, i congratulate you. hello, we are also ready to talk will be joined by tamara gundarova , a literary critic, cultural expert, doctor of philological sciences, who currently teaches ukrainian literature at harvard university, but it will be in a few minutes, we will start talking about awards specifically from the shevchenko prize, from the same state award, which is yuryu, how much . i rem