and then we have norman finkelstein who taught us, he wrote a book called gaza, an ininto mart -- martyrdom points out it came well before your texas congressman's october 7th plea. whole world started in the middle east on october 7th, it didn't. but you, the zionists, not good jews that aren't zionists, and they, the knock was when the incoming jews drove and slaughtered and pushedded out of the area in israel which is also known as palestine many tens of thousands of palestinians and mowing the lawn, he points out too, is periodic killing of innocent palestinians just to keep up the grand design of exterm nation of a race. -- extermination. and that is michael newman, a contributor to the politics of anti-semitism. so-s thanks for letting me on. >> host: all right. and let's take a look, actually, at part of that hearing from yesterday. family members of hostages, american hostages, being held in gaza is testified before house lawmakers yesterday. here's ala portion. >> my name is aviva siegel, i'm keith's wife. iei was in gaza for 51 days, ani saw everything. i felt everything. and we n