first, for those who solomon northup being you, those of you saw 12 years a slave who was a free black man in the north who was kidnaped, sold back slavery and of course, the southern states had immunized themselves from from from having to pay compensation for people who were wrongly re enslaved. right. so and his his story is very instructive because as i mentioned, one of the challenges when you're writing about enslaved is is is that is the material, frankly it's like really, really hard find the material and you know enslaved people were by law and by practice barred from learning to read and write. so the kinds of things you would rely on letters, journals and that kind of thing are not there. so looking for those records that i mentioned, and you're also looking for contemporaneous voices of people at the time who can illuminate something for you. solomon northup was someone who was shipped to louisiana and very vividly about a lot of things, about what new orleans was, about what. the plantation life was like. and that was very instructive. he also wrote about being reunited wi

here tonight, nancy northup, the president and ceo of the center for reproductive rights.eat to have you back. we just heard from nikki haley again, she's on king charles. they asked her to follow up to clarify what she said there. and this is what she told them >> i didn't say that i grade what the alabama ruling what the question that i was asked is, do i believe an embryo is a baby? i do think that if you look a definition and embryo is considered an unborn baby. and so yes, i believe from my stance at that is the difference is this is what i say about abortion as well. we need to treat these issues with the utmost respect >> what do you make of that answer? not just from a political sense, but, but what it means or what someone who wants to be president, how they see this? >> i mean, let's just step back about how radical this decision was. this decision that frozen embryos at an ivf clinic are in the court's words, children. i mean, it's patently absurd, but what is really frightening about the decision is it uses the very concept and i'm quoting the decision jen extr

here tonight, nancy northup, the president and ceo of the center for reproductive rights. and it's great to have you back. we just heard from nikki haley get shoes on king charles. they asked her to follow up to clarify what she said there. and this is what she told them >> i didn't say that i agreed with the alabama ruling. what the question that i was asked is, do i believe an embryo is a baby? i do think that if you look in the definition, an embryo is considered an unborn baby. and so yes, i believe from my stance at that is the difference is this is what i say about abortion as well. we need to treat these issues with the utmost respect >> what do you make of that answer? not even just from a political sense, but, but what it means for what someone who wants to be president, how they see this? >> i mean, let's just step back about how radical this decision was. this decision that frozen embryos at an ivf clinic are in the court's words, children i mean, it's patently absurd, but what is really frightening about the decision is it uses the very concept and i'm quoting