antoshik., here, and i wonder if it’s true, maybe it’s in my bubble, but it’s interesting to hear about you too, because, for sure, people come to you there, and for consultations, people really shared for these three camps, or there may be more, there are four camps, there is no war there, volunteers, the armed forces. people who left, fled the war, immigrants, did i miss something, uh, i notice that the divide is really there, because we have... slightly different, not slightly, sometimes radically different experiences, sometimes slightly different experiences, but also i think that we have many points in common, which such a division can overlook, exclude, and perhaps it draws a little too clear lines, because this fatigue, it has many nuances, from which it woven, yes, because today you and i will actually talk about fatigue, and during. war, and about anxiety, the one that we all feel, each of us also in our own way, in a different way, and the first question i will probably have is wheth

olga antoshik, a clinical psychologist, a consultant in the method of cognitive-behavioral therapy, wase i hear you program today, and we talked about fatigue during the war. and i want to finish this program somehow so resourcefully, because fatigue is always like this, we, we tired, we are tired of the war, and i want to tell you, be honest yourself. with yourself, uh, be honest, because that honesty gives when we're angry, when we're tired, when we're aggressive, take care of yourself, take care of who you hang out with, we're talking a lot now about toxic people, environments, really, like olya said in this program, surround yourself with people who can give you a resource, give you support, give you love , now there are a lot of... now men are not going out, eh, just, just rest, don't close yourself from this world, don't close yourself in guilt and don't close yourself from fatigue, so i wish you all to find your places of strength in yourself. er in this country and that way we can help even more the armed forces and the soldiers at the front and when they come back here they wil