thank you, i will skip over the meeting that you and oliver. the meeting that you and oliver letwin had with alice perkins, chair of the post office. paula vennells, the then ceo of the post office, susan crichton, the legal and compliance director, the chief information officer, the head then of branch and accounting and the head of network on the 17th of may. it is addressed in detail in your in a statement and in a comprehensive pack prepared for the meeting. the meeting is that the post office offered to give independent forensic accountants access to the system and for the post office to fund such an investigation.— for the post office to fund such an investigation. yes, it was the first time i had — investigation. yes, it was the first time i had heard _ investigation. yes, it was the first time i had heard the _ investigation. yes, it was the first time i had heard the phrase - investigation. yes, it was the first i time i had heard the phrase forensic accountant. i did not know what they were but it sounded good. and it turned out to be good. i think this had been something