attorneys, paul charlton and greg bauer. greg, let's talk about this case. supporting the plaintiffs here and overruling a lower court ruling that said race was a consideration and that this was a gerrymandered district for racial reasons. >> that's right. south carolina's argument was that it was -- that the point that the legislature was trying to make, the republicans in the legislature, was to create a more republican congressional district and not a less african american congressional district. that's what a majority of the court found was the case. >> of course, when you create a majority republican district in south carolina, it's more likely to be a white district. as it turns out, this excluded thousands of black voters from having a majority district. >> that's right. it put them into representative clyburn's district, which ironically makes his district safer. i'm not sure he would say that he needed a safer district. >> i think he could be elected in any case. >> that's right. what a majority of the court found was that there was no evidence that