after 9/11, some policymakers like paul wolfowitz and donald rumsfeld, the secretary of defense, suggested to president bush that he turned his attention to iraq. but i show in my book that initially president bush rejected those notions. >> was just days after 9/11 when this happened. and i believe president bush did tell them, listen, if you're going to talk to me about an iraq-al qaeda nexus relationship or whatever. you have to find evidence for. wolf is wolfowitz directed douglas five to set up an office of special plans inside the pentagon. in a very and nefarious sounding name to look for this evidence. there were people early on trying to find something on saddam hussein. that's why some people today even at the time thought that war was decided pretty early here. >> yes. there are many people who focus on the creation of the office of special plans and that did happen in inside the office of the secretary of defense. but the most important thing rs for you and for readers to know about this is that it's the cia and president bush's briefers told him in the days after 9/11 that sad