peter huntsman joins us this morning.ng that you're talking about, peter. you don't need to think very long, very hard about global energy demand and the viable ways that we're going to be able to satisfy for both developed countries and less developed countries. and it is going to involve fossil fuels for the next several decades at least. >> think of the billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars we spent in this country. we still have over 60% of our electricity production coming from fossil fuels. and it is much higher if you look at the reliable and cheap electricity. so it is not just about electrons, it is about the reliability, affordability for the average person out there. i'm not sure a lot of people go through this. nothing to do with inflation, cost of living, everything. >> a.i., take your pick, bitcoin, whatever new technology you want to talk about is going to use -- going to need even more energy than we previously had, along with everything else as the rest of the world comes hopefully to our s