corporate funding is provided by stephens inc and by pfizer inc. [soft upbeat music] - george conway, welcome to "firing line." - thank you, margaret. thank you for having me. - donald trump's first criminal trial will be deliberated by a jury next week. you were initially critical of that case, but last week you wrote that this is in some ways the perfect case against trump. has your legal theory changed or your political analysis? - neither, really. i always thought it was a legally sound case. what i thought was that it wasn't the most important or impactful case because he's committed much, much more serious offenses. and so i thought it would be much more appropriate for him to be charged and prosecuted with the more significant offenses, like the attempt to overthrow american democracy and the stealing of highly classified documents. but, you know, that wasn't to be. and i found, as i was watching the trial, and listening to stormy daniels' testimony, i just realized that it was the perfect case for him, just because it really shows you who h