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in the post office providing witness l post office providing witness statements _ post office providinging - post office providing witness i statements and coming forward post office providing witness - statements and coming forward to -ive statements and coming forward to give insight — statements and coming forward to give insight into— statements and coming forward to give insight into that. _ give insight into that. whistle—blowers- give insight into that. j whistle—blowers have give insight into that. - whistle—blowers have come give insight into that. _ whistle—blowers have come forward and have said that undoubtedly there was problems with the fujitsu horizon system. why do fujitsu or the post office just sit back and take absolutely no notice of the sub—postmasters. rather than listen to them and try to get the issue is resolved, they basically took the attitude of trying to prosecute these people. basically, they fear for their livelihoods, some actually committed suicide as a result of the post office policy. why was this the case? t post office policy. why was this the case?
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office limited, i know— they did in post office limited, i know the — they did in post office limitedr her questions and indeed for her work on the all party group for post offices? thank you. in terms of the case she raises with the postmasters who have suffered financially, and have difficulty providing buzz of lack of evidence, the benefit of be with the post masters and the situation. if she needs help with any of this case is i'm very happy to assist. whether people repeat bonuses or whatever else evil are held accountable for, i thing we should wait to be fair to the results of the inquiry. i think we believe on the basis of process in this house and it is right that people have a right to reply and give their own evidence. i review with her and confidence in server williams, was done a tremendous job. i am sorry i cannot be... more precise in my timescales, but i would be very disappointed if we were past the end of this week in terms of giving more information to this house, but an in terms of the accountability of individuals, i entirely agree with her. for all reasons ofjust
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office under the orders of the post office under the orders of the post office under the orders of thethe time that the branch manager had told the new buyer that i was made bankrupt and he needn't offer the full money. it must have put a huge stress on you and your wife, what was your reaction from the local community? i was brought up in easterhouse and when i was taking the post office on i had no idea of any trouble. my wife did, she was a little bit unsure. i was brought up there, went to school there and i knew a lot of people and they could not believe it. they knew that there was no chance of me stealing money. you know, when we got locked out they could not believe it. after that, we met some of them in a local supermarket and they were all devastated, they were asking us to come back. we found out at that time that the person who had taken over the post office and paid the money, the post office and paid the money, the £42,000, he had run away. he shut the post office up one day and did not come back. this shut the post office up one day and did not come back.— did not come b
office under the orders of the post office under the orders of the post office under the orders of thethe time that the branch manager had told the new buyer that i was made bankrupt and he needn't offer the full money. it must have put a huge stress on you and your wife, what was your reaction from the local community? i was brought up in easterhouse and when i was taking the post office on i had no idea of any trouble. my wife did, she was a little bit unsure. i was brought up there, went to...
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my connection was to the post office. we had a - was to the post office.y team who were responsible for the sale of services associated with the new telecoms contract, and clearly any renewal or extension to the horizon system subsequently. did you remain in that role until you got— did you remain in that role until you got your present position in 2019? _ 2019? no, that role zom — no, that role changed. sol zom — no, that role changed. so i became 2019? no, that role chan-ed. so i became a no, that role changed. so i became a european head of sales and business development and i did not have a direct team involved in the post office then. how long did your involvement with the post _ how long did your involvement with the post office last? i would... the post office last? iwould... fouryears, the post office last? iwould... four years, five the post office last? i would... four years, five years. in that four to five year period, let's call it between 2012 and 2014, sorry, 2016—17, how regularly were you sorry, 2016-17, how regularly were 0 :, , , , sorry
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post office's entire approach to the ethics _ post office's entire approach to the ethics of— post office'sorizon data. and therefore — application of horizon data. and therefore i_ application of horizon data. and therefore i think— application of horizon data. and therefore i think this _ application of horizon data. and therefore i think this needs- application of horizon data. and therefore i think this needs to l application of horizon data. andl therefore i think this needs to be considered — therefore i think this needs to be considered with— therefore i think this needs to be considered with great _ therefore i think this needs to be considered with great care, - therefore i think this needs to be i considered with great care, possibly those _ considered with great care, possibly those whose — considered with great care, possibly those whose cases _ considered with great care, possibly those whose cases were _ considered with great care, possiblyl those whose cases were overturned, they may _ those whose cases were overturned, they nray need — those whose cases were overturned, they
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the crown post offices, those guys were employed by the post office.in the in the rural post offices were their own small businesses. they picked on the people who were their own men and women, the small, the autonomous individuals, the autonomous individuals, the autonomous , not the autonomous individuals, not the not the people in the charm circle. >> sean, i know you've got more to what i'm to is to say. what i'm going to do is i'm to you straight to say. what i'm going to do is i'm in to you straight to say. what i'm going to do is i'm in quarter you straight to say. what i'm going to do is i'm in quarter two. straight to say. what i'm going to do is i'm in quarter two. soaight to say. what i'm going to do is i'm in quarter two. so will back in at quarter two. so will you please that thought, back in at quarter two. so will you pleawe're that thought, back in at quarter two. so will you pleawe're coming hought, because we're coming back to this a moment. but this story in just a moment. but before get sean, commuters before we get to sean, commute
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the post office and the post office to let us _ post office and the post office to let us know what. these documents are from 2010. we will go through a number of different case studies in due course. how soon were you aware of horizon being raised as an issue? from 2010, as i say, people were raising — from 2010, as i say, people were raising it. _ from 2010, as i say, people were raising it, and overthe from 2010, as i say, people were raising it, and over the next few years _ years. when you say years. — when you say 2010 as years — when you say 2010 as the yrs — when you say 2010 as the starting point, or is there an earlier... ? i think some may have even mentioned it earlier~ _ it earlier. we - it earlier. we will go back live now it earlier. — we will go back live now to the hearing, where evidence continues to be given. we have a problem which should be solved in a few minutes with the transcripts, and my colleagues and i will sit here rather than go in and help, but feel free to have a quiet chat amongst yourselves until we start again. studio: apologies, it looks like ther
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post office building.peaker pro tempore: pursuan t to the rule, the gentleman the gentleman from maryland, mr0 minutes. the chair recognizes the gentleman from florida. mr. donalds: madam speaker, i ask unanimous consent that all members have five legislative days in which to revise and extend their remarks. and include extraneous material on this measure. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. donalds: madam speaker, i yield myself as much time as i may consume. mr. donalds: i rise in support of this name the post office in laredo texas. the speaker pro tempore: lance corporales pi knowsd the marine corps in 2019 and 13 servicemembers killed in a suicide bombing during the united states' withdrawa from afghanistan. he was just 20 years old. lance corporal served in the marine force reserves after graduating from high school in the year 2000. in 2005 at the age of 23, he died conducting combat operations in iraq. sergeant arises disoala and in 2004, one day before he was set to return home he was
post office building.peaker pro tempore: pursuan t to the rule, the gentleman the gentleman from maryland, mr0 minutes. the chair recognizes the gentleman from florida. mr. donalds: madam speaker, i ask unanimous consent that all members have five legislative days in which to revise and extend their remarks. and include extraneous material on this measure. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. donalds: madam speaker, i yield myself as much time as i may consume. mr. donalds: i rise in...
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_ post office, and the post office to let us know what the issues are. of horizon being raised as an issue? it were aware of horizon being raised as an issue?— as an issue? it was raised during these... as an issue? it was raised during these- -- as _ as an issue? it was raised during these... as you _ as an issue? it was raised during these... as you say, _ as an issue? it was raised during these... as you say, from i as an issue? it was raised during these... as you say, from 2010. | these... as you say, from 2010. people — these... as you say, from 2010. people were _ these... as you say, from 2010. people were raising it between then and over— people were raising it between then and over the next few years.- and over the next few years. would ou sa and over the next few years. would you say 2010 _ and over the next few years. would you say 2010 is _ and over the next few years. would you say 2010 is the _ and over the next few years. would you say 2010 is the starting - and over the next few years. would you say 2010 is the starting point i you say 2
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it's right, one of the post things the post office | of the post things the post office could requestt is in the exhibit, if we _ you seen that? i think it is in the exhibit, if we could _ you seen that? i think it is in the exhibit, if we could go _ you seen that? i think it is in the exhibit, if we could go to - you seen that? i think it is in the exhibit, if we could go to the - exhibit, if we could go to the exhibits _ exhibit, if we could go to the exhibits i _ exhibit, if we could go to the exhibits i think it shows the criteria _ exhibits i think it shows the criteria. �* ., , ., criteria. i'm not sure i have the exhibit to _ criteria. i'm not sure i have the exhibit to home, _ criteria. i'm not sure i have the exhibit to home, i— criteria. i'm not sure i have the exhibit to home, i certainly - criteria. i'm not sure i have the. exhibit to home, i certainly have one that may i could use, unless you have the exhibit. i one that may i could use, unless you have the exhibit.— have the exhibit. i think we can disla have the exhibit. i think we can display it- _ have the exhibit. i
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to the post office on shortages _ anything to the post office on shortages and _ anything to the postthe post office on shortages and before i- anything to the post office on shortages and before i left. anything to the post office on| shortages and before i left my office — shortages and before i left my office i— shortages and before i left my office i had _ shortages and before i left my office i had to _ shortages and before i left my office i had to borrow- shortages and before i left my| office i had to borrow £19,000 shortages and before i left my. office i had to borrow £19,000 to make _ office i had to borrow £19,000 to make good — office i had to borrow £19,000 to make good false _ office i had to borrow £19,000 to make good false accounting. - office i had to borrow £19,000 to make good false accounting. i- office i had to borrow £19,000 tol make good false accounting. i was fearful— make good false accounting. i was fearful that — make good false accounting. i was fearful that at— make good false accounting. i was fearful that at any— make good false accounting. i was fear
to the post office on shortages _ anything to the post office on shortages and _ anything to the postthe post office on shortages and before i- anything to the post office on shortages and before i left. anything to the post office on| shortages and before i left my office — shortages and before i left my office i— shortages and before i left my office i had _ shortages and before i left my office i had to _ shortages and before i left my office i had to borrow- shortages and before i left...
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we got caught up in the post office scandal as well. i in the post office scandal as well.e time and things. people were saying that you and your wife had carried out the robberies? part of the group.— part of the group. what are the parallels. _ part of the group. what are the parallels, patrick, _ part of the group. what are the parallels, patrick, contractually with what mark went through and the contracts we have heard about of other sub postmaster is more recently? other sub postmaster is more recentl ? other sub postmaster is more recently?— other sub postmaster is more recentl ? , ., recently? the contracts are the same contracts and — recently? the contracts are the same contracts and it is _ recently? the contracts are the same contracts and it is basically _ recently? the contracts are the same contracts and it is basically the - contracts and it is basically the same — contracts and it is basically the same approach they took. so whether it was— same approach they took. so whether it was a _ same approach they took. so whether it was a loss _ same approach they t
we got caught up in the post office scandal as well. i in the post office scandal as well.e time and things. people were saying that you and your wife had carried out the robberies? part of the group.— part of the group. what are the parallels. _ part of the group. what are the parallels, patrick, _ part of the group. what are the parallels, patrick, contractually with what mark went through and the contracts we have heard about of other sub postmaster is more recently? other sub postmaster...
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post office contracts because _ post office contracts.e l contracts because you have the horizon system written by fujitsu, it is their system, so it needs replacing and they need a lot of funding to do that, the post office and until that, it is fujitsu so i don't think there's a lot of choice. i think horizon is very different now from years gone by but i'm not the expert on that point would you give them a new contract at the post office until it sorted out? i think they need to keep their own system going but there is a new system needed. and i think it's pretty clear what the post office should do but having a new contractor. band but having a new contractor. and also aet but having a new contractor. and also get fuiitsu _ but having a new contractor. and also get fujitsu to pony up some compensation question absolutely. thank you. the nigerian televangelist tb joshua was one of the most powerful religious figures of the early 21st century, an evangelical preacher feted by presidents and premier league footballers. through his christ
post office contracts because _ post office contracts.e l contracts because you have the horizon system written by fujitsu, it is their system, so it needs replacing and they need a lot of funding to do that, the post office and until that, it is fujitsu so i don't think there's a lot of choice. i think horizon is very different now from years gone by but i'm not the expert on that point would you give them a new contract at the post office until it sorted out? i think they need to keep their...
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my main post office continued _ and then my main post office continued i_ and then my main post officeney in weekly, monthly until— continued. i was putting money in weekly, monthly until i— continued. i was putting money in weekly, monthly until ijust - continued. i was putting money in weekly, monthly until ijust ran. continued. i was putting money in. weekly, monthly until ijust ran out of money — weekly, monthly until ijust ran out of money i— weekly, monthly until ijust ran out of money i kept_ weekly, monthly until ijust ran out of money. i kept phoning _ weekly, monthly until ijust ran out of money. i kept phoning the - weekly, monthly until ijust ran outi of money. i kept phoning the health line every— of money. i kept phoning the health line every time _ of money. i kept phoning the health line every time they tell— of money. i kept phoning the health line every time they tell me - of money. i kept phoning the health line every time they tell me to i line every time they tell me to press — line every time they tell me to press buttons— line every time they tell me to press but
my main post office continued _ and then my main post office continued i_ and then my main post officeney in weekly, monthly until— continued. i was putting money in weekly, monthly until i— continued. i was putting money in weekly, monthly until ijust - continued. i was putting money in weekly, monthly until ijust ran. continued. i was putting money in. weekly, monthly until ijust ran out of money — weekly, monthly until ijust ran out of money i— weekly, monthly until ijust ran out of...
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, the post own the post office, the post office. about other office.he other person involved that person involved here that fujitsu whatever. it's fujitsu or jitsi, whatever. it's called? yeah, they seem to me all the fingers are pointing at their and they denied their systems and they denied blame. deeply culpable blame. they are deeply culpable and they to me should cough up a huge amount. and yes, of course, ed go, but he's ed davey should go, but he's finished anyway. he hasn't. >> right. well, let tell >> all right. well, let me tell you that fujitsu have apologised for distress. for the damage and distress. >> so sorry. >> brilliant. i'm so sorry. >> brilliant. i'm so sorry. >> they've also they've also >> and they've also they've also said work actively said that they'll work actively in, in you know, fixing the issues that have occurred. >> words weasel words and all of that. >> but james, if this was in america , that woman, that america, that woman, that remarkable lady that you just heard, she'd be a millionaire. now having gone through the
, the post own the post office, the post office. about other office.he other person involved that person involved here that fujitsu whatever. it's fujitsu or jitsi, whatever. it's called? yeah, they seem to me all the fingers are pointing at their and they denied their systems and they denied blame. deeply culpable blame. they are deeply culpable and they to me should cough up a huge amount. and yes, of course, ed go, but he's ed davey should go, but he's finished anyway. he hasn't. >>...
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it was drafted by cartwright king and the post office. and the post office? security— post office.f this document. we have a proposed form of words from mr singh, the post office lawyer responsible for criminal matters. he was the post office law responsible for criminal matters, wasn't he? do you call someone called hugh lymington?— you call someone called hugh l lymington?_ a you call someone called hugh - lymington?_ a form lymington? don't recall him. a form of words has — lymington? don't recall him. a form of words has been _ lymington? don't recall him. a form of words has been sent _ lymington? don't recall him. a form of words has been sent and - lymington? don't recall him. a form of words has been sent and if- lymington? don't recall him. a form of words has been sent and if we - of words has been sent and if we scroll up we see an e—mail from someone called simon baker, about that, thank you, do you recall him? i do not know. he says, please can help us crop the message around the second review, we need to combat the assertion that the review is acknowledgement that the
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office _ who was wrongly prosecuted by post office limited — who was wrongly prosecuted by post office1 and his heallh— office limited in 2011 and his health is— office limited in 2011 and his health is completely - office limited in 2011 and his. health is completely shattered, office limited in 2011 and his- health is completely shattered, it will only— health is completely shattered, it will only get — health is completely shattered, it will only get worse _ health is completely shattered, it will only get worse and _ health is completely shattered, it will only get worse and he - health is completely shattered, it will only get worse and he is i health is completely shattered, it will only get worse and he is not. will only get worse and he is not here _ will only get worse and he is not here to — will only get worse and he is not here to receive _ will only get worse and he is not here to receive compensation. l will only get worse and he is not i here to receive compensation. let’s here to receive compensation. let's take
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stephen bradshaw is part of the post office _ part of the post office investigation team whose work ledpostmaster �*s. remember at the heart of it is one of very simple aim, to get to the truth about what happened and why the post office pursued hundreds of innocent people over two decades, leading to convictions for crimes they didn't commit. i convictions for crimes they didn't commit. . �* ., . ., , commit. i haven't got that money! the itv commit. i haven't got that money! the "v drama _ commit. i haven't got that money! the itv drama has _ commit. i haven't got that money! the itv drama has prompted - commit. i haven't got that money! . the itv drama has prompted renewed public outrage over the scandal but it began in 1999 when fujitsu's faulty computer system was installed. , , ., faulty computer system was installed-— installed. this is one of the greatest — installed. this is one of the greatest miscarriages - installed. this is one of the greatest miscarriages of. installed. this is one of the - greatest miscarriages ofjustice in our nations history. it greatest miscarriages of
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if you could explain the post office is owned by the l the post office is owned by the government andin this appeals process that angus a lot of people and there are calls for that to be somehow removed but who could replace it and what could be the process and do you think that could happen? process and do you think that could ha en? . �* , process and do you think that could hauen? �*, process and do you think that could hauen? happen? that's right, it's a sliuhtl happen? that's right, it's a slightly complex _ happen? that's right, it's a slightly complex legal - happen? that's right, it's a - slightly complex legal architecture. the post office is an arms length body of the government, operating as a private company with a board and chief executive and all of the sort of things you'd expect from a private company except it's shareholders the government and one of the independent non—executive directors on the board as a civil servant and the government has some sort of arms length control over it. people are saying that the post office seems to have lost sight of the pack that ult
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office . services to the post office.nd it's incredibly right that she handed back a cbe. i mean this the cbe clearly brings the whole honours situation disrepute. it's unfathomable that she could keep a cbe after the absolute scandalous thing that she presided over and it's right that she handed it back . that she handed it back. >> is it right that it took this amount of time? do you think it was partly the itv documentary , was partly the itv documentary, partly that petition of over 1.2 million people signing on to demand this or indeed, was it some political pressure from the prime minister yesterday that fed into this ? fed into this? >> well, clearly, if she had had a shred of decency, she'd have handed this back the cbe back years ago. i mean, people have known about this scandal for fall for years, decades when fall for years, for decades when i to i first got elected to parliament, one of the first things i did in march 2020 was sit select committee sit on the base select committee looking bates looking at inter
office . services to the post office.nd it's incredibly right that she handed back a cbe. i mean this the cbe clearly brings the whole honours situation disrepute. it's unfathomable that she could keep a cbe after the absolute scandalous thing that she presided over and it's right that she handed it back . that she handed it back. >> is it right that it took this amount of time? do you think it was partly the itv documentary , was partly the itv documentary, partly that petition of over...
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lee castleton was bankrupted by the post office. in his case there was nothing wrong with horizon at his branch. so what did he think today? i'm sure, you know, he means it, i'm not saying that he doesn't, but it's about doing things, it's about actions. some of the victims want to meet the fujitsu boss to discuss assistance and support. he said he would be happy to, apologising again for his company's part in their suffering. emma simpson, bbc news. more details are emerging about who knew there were issues with the post office computer system, and when. 0ur economics correspondent andy verity is here with more. thanks, reeta. way back in 1999, the post office begins the roll—out of horizon. within weeks, some sub—postmasters report that it's generating errors. that goes to the top. we've seen the minutes of a post office board meeting in september �*99 where directors heard of "serious doubts over the reliability of the software." by april 2000, even the prime minister knows there's something seriously wrong. when we came to offic
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to the post office. analysis — up please? to the post office.nstances of concern were _ completed. 27 instances of concern were identified. they have been fully analysed and we can confirm that the _ fully analysed and we can confirm that the locking was caused by contention between the end of day process— contention between the end of day process and our riposte checkpoint being _ process and our riposte checkpoint being written. no transactions or balancing — being written. no transactions or balancing activities were affected. ithink— balancing activities were affected. i think that answers the first points— i think that answers the first points that we were looking at, whether— points that we were looking at, whether there had been a back check of the _ whether there had been a back check of the relevant period. but that is in relation — of the relevant period. but that is in relation to 195 arqs, not subject to data _ in relation to 195 arqs, not subject to data that had been in arq. and that was what _ to data that had been in arq. and tha
to the post office. analysis — up please? to the post office.nstances of concern were _ completed. 27 instances of concern were identified. they have been fully analysed and we can confirm that the _ fully analysed and we can confirm that the locking was caused by contention between the end of day process— contention between the end of day process and our riposte checkpoint being _ process and our riposte checkpoint being written. no transactions or balancing — being written. no...
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office and it _ have paid money to the post office and it is— have paid money to the post office and that. have paid money to the post office and it is not in my account. that is| and it is not in my account. that is what _ and it is not in my account. that is what was — and it is not in my account. that is what was locked _ and it is not in my account. that is what was locked into _ and it is not in my account. that is what was locked into on _ and it is not in my account. that is what was locked into on this - what was locked into on this occasion _ occasion. but - occasion. butjusti occasion. i butjust to occasion. - butjust to help occasion. _ but just to help you to make sense butjust to help you to make sense of that clip we have just heard from stephen bradshaw at the inquiry, what he is essentially saying is that in his opinion, the missing funds that angela sefton and anne nield were suspected of stealing, that it wasn't relevant to look at the horizon it system. that's what he kept saying again and again, and that's what he was saying in that clip. this is money, by the way
office and it _ have paid money to the post office and it is— have paid money to the post office and that. have paid money to the post office and it is not in my account. that is| and it is not in my account. that is what _ and it is not in my account. that is what was — and it is not in my account. that is what was locked _ and it is not in my account. that is what was locked into _ and it is not in my account. that is what was locked into on _ and it is not in my account. that is what was...
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for the post office to attend individual post offices?— post offices?n audit, it depends on _ post offices? for an audit, it depends on the _ post offices? for an audit, it depends on the size - post offices? for an audit, it depends on the size of - post offices? for an audit, it depends on the size of the l post offices? for an audit, it - depends on the size of the branch. does it strike you as unusual to have five people? it does it strike you as unusual to have five people?— does it strike you as unusual to have five people? it depends on the size of the branch _ have five people? it depends on the size of the branch and _ have five people? it depends on the size of the branch and the _ have five people? it depends on the size of the branch and the audit - size of the branch and the audit team will take into account the amount of cash and stock in the branch, and they will put the number of people accordingly to get it done as quickly as possible.— as quickly as possible. please turn to -a~e as quickly as possible. please turn to page four- _ as qu
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iran a small rural post office in bedford for nearly, nearly 20 years.y to pay for all the shortfalls from the corrupt horizon system. and ijoined the 555 to see if i can help getjustice. we need to have the monies that were paid to post office put back to the postmasters. in credible stories. the story has also been covered on nicky campbell's radio 5 show this morning. during the programme he took this call from karen who's a former post mistress. well, i'd been running my post office — it was like a main one, they closed the main one down the road for 20 years and in 2000 i had the horizon system put in and we just kept being sure. , just kept being short. up to that point, i was audited not 20, about 17 years. i was audited and everything was fine. and then i kept being short. my husband, when we were old in our 60s, he was 67. he was taking the lump sum out of his pension pot and in the end he couldn't do it anymore. so i wasn't brave like all the other postmasters. i took a route where i hid it and i hid it and moved money around from the shop to t
iran a small rural post office in bedford for nearly, nearly 20 years.y to pay for all the shortfalls from the corrupt horizon system. and ijoined the 555 to see if i can help getjustice. we need to have the monies that were paid to post office put back to the postmasters. in credible stories. the story has also been covered on nicky campbell's radio 5 show this morning. during the programme he took this call from karen who's a former post mistress. well, i'd been running my post office — it...
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boycott the post office, thinking . boycott the post office, thinking they are — boycott the post office people i boycott the post office, thinking they are punishing the people at boycott the post office, thinking i they are punishing the people at the top when _ they are punishing the people at the top when they— they are punishing the people at the top when they are _ they are punishing the people at the top when they are actually _ they are punishing the people at the j top when they are actually punishing the business — top when they are actually punishing the business people _ top when they are actually punishing the business people that _ top when they are actually punishing the business people that are - top when they are actually punishing the business people that are really. the business people that are really are the _ the business people that are really are the face — the business people that are really are the face of— the business people that are really are the face of the _ the business people that are really are the face of the post _ the business people that are really a
boycott the post office, thinking . boycott the post office, thinking they are — boycott the post office people i boycott the post office, thinking they are punishing the people at boycott the post office, thinking i they are punishing the people at the top when _ they are punishing the people at the top when they— they are punishing the people at the top when they are _ they are punishing the people at the top when they are actually _ they are punishing the people at the j top when they...
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i put them to the post office, and it's clear the post office, and it's clear the post office lied toudges , to the victims, to judges, to the public, to me and other postal ministers . for over 20 years, ministers. for over 20 years, this is a conspiracy by the post office to deceive people . okay lee. >> well, that was ed davey. he's obviously not resigning. he's, um , coming out with platitudes. um, coming out with platitudes. what do you make of that? what a pathetic sight. >> martin is. is live there on tv, snivelling, snivelling away. look, over 700 people got convicted of these offences. you know , at any stage of that, of know, at any stage of that, of that investigation, a red flag should have appeared. martin, you think if 700 people had been convicted, somebody say, oh, there's something wrong here. and he didn't, he said and he didn't, and he said nothing until today. as far as i'm concerned , the man should i'm concerned, the man should hang his in shame. he hang his head in shame. he should. uh, should should. he should, uh, he should go chamber this afternoon go in the
i put them to the post office, and it's clear the post office, and it's clear the post office lied toudges , to the victims, to judges, to the public, to me and other postal ministers . for over 20 years, ministers. for over 20 years, this is a conspiracy by the post office to deceive people . okay lee. >> well, that was ed davey. he's obviously not resigning. he's, um , coming out with platitudes. um, coming out with platitudes. what do you make of that? what a pathetic sight. >>...
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office _ affairs, was told by a previous post office minister, everything is fine, post office — officet is appalling. what about the argument that there is plenty of legislation here, we don't need any more, and certainly not kneejerk legislation? more, and certainly not knee'erk regisution?�* more, and certainly not knee'erk leaislation? , , ., ., , legislation? this comes down to this bod here, legislation? this comes down to this body here. the _ legislation? this comes down to this body here, the horizon _ legislation? this comes down to this body here, the horizon conversation| body here, the horizon conversation advisory— body here, the horizon conversation advisory board, _ body here, the horizon conversation advisory board, and _ body here, the horizon conversation advisory board, and they _ body here, the horizon conversation i advisory board, and they recommended in december— advisory board, and they recommended in december in— advisory board, and they recommended in december in a— advisory board, and they recommended in december in a letter— advisory board, and they recommen
office _ affairs, was told by a previous post office minister, everything is fine, post office — officet is appalling. what about the argument that there is plenty of legislation here, we don't need any more, and certainly not kneejerk legislation? more, and certainly not knee'erk regisution?�* more, and certainly not knee'erk leaislation? , , ., ., , legislation? this comes down to this bod here, legislation? this comes down to this body here. the _ legislation? this comes down to this...
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i think post office did not have the - post office did not have the technical _ post office did not haveen they brought their system in, and they very much _ when they brought their system in, and they very much relied - when they brought their system in, and they very much relied upon - when they brought their system in, i and they very much relied upon their supplier— and they very much relied upon their supplier to— and they very much relied upon their supplier to also _ and they very much relied upon their supplier to also beat _ and they very much relied upon their supplier to also beat their _ and they very much relied upon their supplier to also beat their it - supplier to also beat their it experts _ supplier to also beat their it experts and _ supplier to also beat their it experts and advisors - supplier to also beat their it experts and advisors along i supplier to also beat their it . experts and advisors along the supplier to also beat their it - experts and advisors along the way. i experts and advisors along the way. ithink— experts and advisors along the way. i think that
i think post office did not have the - post office did not have the technical _ post office did not haveen they brought their system in, and they very much _ when they brought their system in, and they very much relied - when they brought their system in, and they very much relied upon - when they brought their system in, i and they very much relied upon their supplier— and they very much relied upon their supplier to— and they very much relied upon their supplier to also _ and they very...
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post office are not doing — with the post office? hand back bonuses and pensions? find think she should have to hand back bonuses and pensions?— think she should have to hand back bonuses and pensions? and so should nick reed, bonuses and pensions? and so should nick reed. the _ bonuses and pensions? and so should nick reed, the current _ bonuses and pensions? and so should nick reed, the current month. - nick reed, the current month. that is unanimous. _ nick reed, the current month. that is unanimous, what _ nick reed, the current month. “i“isgt is unanimous, what do you say? i think i was one of the first people to say paula vennells should hand back her cbe which she has agreed to do. and bonuses? as i say, i think we need to go through due process. i know people with you will not be happy about that but that is the system we run. we do not do trial by media. we run a process, an inquiry and all those answers and sanctions and all those answers and sanctions and enforcement actions can be taken at the end of the inquiry when we kn
post office are not doing — with the post office? hand back bonuses and pensions? find think she should have to hand back bonuses and pensions?— think she should have to hand back bonuses and pensions? and so should nick reed, bonuses and pensions? and so should nick reed. the _ bonuses and pensions? and so should nick reed, the current _ bonuses and pensions? and so should nick reed, the current month. - nick reed, the current month. that is unanimous. _ nick reed, the current month. that...
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post office to say, we will accept your— the post office to say, we will accept your plea _ the posti the post office to say, we willi accept your plea but only if you don't _ accept your plea but only if you don't blame _ accept your plea but only if you don't blame horizon? - accept your plea but only if you don't blame horizon?— accept your plea but only if you don't blame horizon? probably not. thank you- — don't blame horizon? probably not. thank you- so _ don't blame horizon? probably not. thank you. so what _ don't blame horizon? probably not. thank you. so what did _ don't blame horizon? probably not. thank you. so what did janet - don't blame horizon? probably not. thank you. so what did janet make | don't blame horizon? probably not. l thank you. so what did janet make of it all at the end? _ thank you. so what did janet make of it all at the end? i _ thank you. so what did janet make of it all at the end? i thought _ thank you. so what did janet make of it all at the end? i thought he - thank you. so what did janet make of it all at the end? i thought he was - it all at th
post office to say, we will accept your— the post office to say, we will accept your plea _ the posti the post office to say, we willi accept your plea but only if you don't _ accept your plea but only if you don't blame _ accept your plea but only if you don't blame horizon? - accept your plea but only if you don't blame horizon?— accept your plea but only if you don't blame horizon? probably not. thank you- — don't blame horizon? probably not. thank you- so _ don't blame horizon?...
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i had been running the post office, call. i had been running the post office. they _ call.g the post office, they closed _ call. i had been running the post office, they closed the - call. i had been running the post office, they closed the main - call. i had been running the post office, they closed the main one down the road for 20 years and in 2000 i had the horizon system put in and wejust kept 2000 i had the horizon system put in and we just kept being short. up to that point i was audited, not 20, about 17 years, i was audited and everything was fine. and then i kept being short. we were in our 60s, my husband was 67 and he was taking a lump sum out of his pension pot and in the end he couldn't do it any more. so i wasn't brave like all the other postmasters, i took a route where i hid it and i move money around from the shop to the post office for about 18 months, two years, and i knew, i don't know, i can't tell you, i knew i was going to be audited and when they came out ijust to be audited and when they came out i just confessed. to be audited and when they came o
i had been running the post office, call. i had been running the post office. they _ call.g the post office, they closed _ call. i had been running the post office, they closed the - call. i had been running the post office, they closed the main - call. i had been running the post office, they closed the main one down the road for 20 years and in 2000 i had the horizon system put in and wejust kept 2000 i had the horizon system put in and we just kept being short. up to that point i was...
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your mum to cover your post office. three times. your mum to cover your post office-— post office.parents were told | post office. excuse me. so, what| happened, my parents were told i post office. excuse me. so, what - happened, my parents were told i had committed _ happened, my parents were told i had committed fraud, i was a criminal comedy— committed fraud, i was a criminal comedy that were then duped into taking _ comedy that were then duped into taking the post office back over. they— taking the post office back over. they took— taking the post office back over. they took over a period after i had been _ they took over a period after i had been there — they took over a period after i had been there and had been some interim people _ been there and had been some interim people. they were told that because i had people. they were told that because i had done _ people. they were told that because i had done something, that the business — i had done something, that the business was sound. dad, who took the business over officially as the postmaster, it was done over a handshake,
your mum to cover your post office. three times. your mum to cover your post office-— post office.parents were told | post office. excuse me. so, what| happened, my parents were told i post office. excuse me. so, what - happened, my parents were told i had committed _ happened, my parents were told i had committed fraud, i was a criminal comedy— committed fraud, i was a criminal comedy that were then duped into taking _ comedy that were then duped into taking the post office back over....
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he still works for the post office, he has worked for them for more than a0 years.n why for example his witness statement in the words of the inquiry counsel was the bare minimum of what he could have offered to the inquiry in terms of what he knew about the horizon it system. what he knew about the horizon it s stem. . ~ what he knew about the horizon it s stem. ., ~ ,, ., system. thank you, we will leave it there so you _ system. thank you, we will leave it there so you can — system. thank you, we will leave it there so you can run _ system. thank you, we will leave it there so you can run back - system. thank you, we will leave it there so you can run back into - system. thank you, we will leave it there so you can run back into the i there so you can run back into the room and make sure you were there from the start. we will go back to her throughout the day and as this inquiry progresses. as a reminder, she is going back because she and her colleague at the bbc are both reporting from the courtroom and giving us updates regularly on our news website. they are a
he still works for the post office, he has worked for them for more than a0 years.n why for example his witness statement in the words of the inquiry counsel was the bare minimum of what he could have offered to the inquiry in terms of what he knew about the horizon it system. what he knew about the horizon it s stem. . ~ what he knew about the horizon it s stem. ., ~ ,, ., system. thank you, we will leave it there so you _ system. thank you, we will leave it there so you can — system. thank...
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post office was made aware of that bug i_ post office was made aware of that bug ijust— post office wasr— bug. ijust want to be clear about this. is your evidence _ bug. ijust want to be clear about this. is your evidence that - bug. ijust want to be clear about this. is your evidence that each l bug. ijust want to be clear about . this. is your evidence that each and every— this. is your evidence that each and every bug _ this. is your evidence that each and every bug was — this. is your evidence that each and every bug was notified _ this. is your evidence that each and every bug was notified to _ this. is your evidence that each and every bug was notified to the - this. is your evidence that each and every bug was notified to the post i every bug was notified to the post office _ every bug was notified to the post office contemporaneously, - every bug was notified to the post office contemporaneously, or- every bug was notified to the post. office contemporaneously, or more every bug was notified to the post - office contemporaneously, or more or less contemporaneously? _ office cont
post office was made aware of that bug i_ post office was made aware of that bug ijust— post office wasr— bug. ijust want to be clear about this. is your evidence _ bug. ijust want to be clear about this. is your evidence that - bug. ijust want to be clear about this. is your evidence that each l bug. ijust want to be clear about . this. is your evidence that each and every— this. is your evidence that each and every bug _ this. is your evidence that each and every bug was — this. is...
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what the post office failed to| what the post office failed to realise — what the post office failed that the most trusted brand in the country was the - realise was that the most trustedi brand in the country was the most trusted _ brand in the country was the most trusted because _ brand in the country was the most trusted because of— brand in the country was the most trusted because of the _ brand in the country was the mosti trusted because of the relationship that these — trusted because of the relationship that these sub—postmasters - trusted because of the relationship that these sub—postmasters had i trusted because of the relationship. that these sub—postmasters had with their communities. _ that these sub—postmasters had with their communities. it— that these sub—postmasters had with their communities. it was _ that these sub—postmasters had with their communities. it was not - that these sub—postmasters had with their communities. it was not the - their communities. it was not the most _ their communities. it was not the most trusted _ their communities. it was not the mos
what the post office failed to| what the post office failed to realise — what the post office failed that the most trusted brand in the country was the - realise was that the most trustedi brand in the country was the most trusted _ brand in the country was the most trusted because _ brand in the country was the most trusted because of— brand in the country was the most trusted because of the _ brand in the country was the mosti trusted because of the relationship that these — trusted...
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he blames being misled by the post office . at misled by the post office.em and the rest of it, but i think there political reckoning, there was a political reckoning, i but yes, for sir ed i think. but yes, for sir ed davey he was that was back in 2010, 2012 for this tory government. been in government. they've been in power for 14 years. they've allowed get allowed that no one to get punished or dealt with. inquiry was laid to be set up. there are questions for this government . questions for this government. and forget the labour and also don't forget the labour government that brought in the honzon government that brought in the horizon programme in the first place. these place. it's across all of these people concrete people like the rac concrete with with schools. when the rules are caving in, it's a plague on all their houses. martin >> yeah, a lot of them could have done something about it. and indeed keir starmer was being yesterday. and indeed keir starmer was being charge yesterday. and indeed keir starmer was being charge of yesterday. and indee
he blames being misled by the post office . at misled by the post office.em and the rest of it, but i think there political reckoning, there was a political reckoning, i but yes, for sir ed i think. but yes, for sir ed davey he was that was back in 2010, 2012 for this tory government. been in government. they've been in power for 14 years. they've allowed get allowed that no one to get punished or dealt with. inquiry was laid to be set up. there are questions for this government . questions for...
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so, yeah, they are in bed post office, bed with the post office, unfortunately.so do you believe that >> and so do you believe that they share some of the culpability for what's happened as i mean, they had a membership fee to work out that this was a widespread issue. >> they must have known , they >> they must have known, they must have known, but it will come out of the inquiry. thank you . you. >> mr lavery has already covered the questions that i wanted to ask, and rightly so. but i just wonder if i could ask you both very briefly on the 17th of december, lord arbuthnot held an adjournment. westminster hall debate. and then on the 29th of june, 2015, andrew bridgen held a westminster hall debate. both of them i identified that the honzon of them i identified that the horizon scheme could be remotely accessed . both of them accessed. both of them identified the fact there were bugsin identified the fact there were bugs in the system and then, according to my timeline in 2017, both both in 2014. the second sight report response from the post office maintains r
so, yeah, they are in bed post office, bed with the post office, unfortunately.so do you believe that >> and so do you believe that they share some of the culpability for what's happened as i mean, they had a membership fee to work out that this was a widespread issue. >> they must have known , they >> they must have known, they must have known, but it will come out of the inquiry. thank you . you. >> mr lavery has already covered the questions that i wanted to ask, and...
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remove the post office. from the process. _ process. remove the post office. from the process.ess. remove the post office. from the process. because they i process. remove the post office. - from the process. because they have too much power over convictions being overturned or being referred to the courts. and also, even with compensation, they are the ones that are running the show. bud compensation, they are the ones that are running the show.— are running the show. and the labour aurees. are running the show. and the labour agrees- -- — are running the show. and the labour agrees- -- later- _ are running the show. and the labour agrees. -- later. the _ are running the show. and the labour agrees. -- later. the prosecution - agrees. -- later. the prosecution should be — agrees. -- later. the prosecution should be taken _ agrees. -- later. the prosecution should be taken out _ agrees. -- later. the prosecution should be taken out of— agrees. -- later. the prosecution should be taken out of the - agrees. -- later. the prosecution should be taken out of the hands| agrees. -- la
remove the post office. from the process. _ process. remove the post office. from the process.ess. remove the post office. from the process. because they i process. remove the post office. - from the process. because they have too much power over convictions being overturned or being referred to the courts. and also, even with compensation, they are the ones that are running the show. bud compensation, they are the ones that are running the show.— are running the show. and the labour aurees....
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the post office scandal.a little bit later. what might he be saying ? what might he be saying? >> well, as you say, tom, this is a scandal which reaches every corner of government. every party corner of government. every party has been implicated by this. the liberal democrats were in coalition with the conservatives when all this was going on. and actually the labour government under gordon brown were in office at the very start of this scandal. now we're expecting to hear from alex chalk, the justice secretary, later . he is chalk, the justice secretary, later. he is at the moment mulling over potential options for how to get those wrongful criminal convictions overturned and for how to speed up the process to get compensation to the victims. now on the question of overturning those criminal convictions, he is considering the option of simply exonerating all of those postmasters in one fell swoop. that's what david davis has called for. it would be a pretty radical thing to do. there are 607, uh, post maste
the post office scandal.a little bit later. what might he be saying ? what might he be saying? >> well, as you say, tom, this is a scandal which reaches every corner of government. every party corner of government. every party has been implicated by this. the liberal democrats were in coalition with the conservatives when all this was going on. and actually the labour government under gordon brown were in office at the very start of this scandal. now we're expecting to hear from alex...
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office so they can get on with their lives and no longer think about the post office — the post officeey want to move on with their lives and i think it's imperative that for years on from now, that this year finally brings closure to thousands of postmasters. good to talk to you, please pass on my regards to your parents, the best of luck to all of you going forward. thank you. scientists say last year was the hottest on record globally, with temperatures beating the previous high recorded in 2016. and for the first time ever, two days in novermber were more than two degrees warmer than those pre industrial times. overall, it leaves the global average temperature perilously close to the 1.5—degree limit the world set as the goal to avoid the worst effects of global heating. our climate editorjustin rowlatt has all the details. it be the previous hottest year, 2016, by a it be the previous hottest year, 2016, bya margin it be the previous hottest year, 2016, by a margin of 0.7 celsius. now the gray lines on this chart show temperatures for each year since 1940, the red line, you can se
office so they can get on with their lives and no longer think about the post office — the post officeey want to move on with their lives and i think it's imperative that for years on from now, that this year finally brings closure to thousands of postmasters. good to talk to you, please pass on my regards to your parents, the best of luck to all of you going forward. thank you. scientists say last year was the hottest on record globally, with temperatures beating the previous high recorded...
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i ran alderley edge post office for four years from 2005.010. i couldn't get a job for three and a half years after that. i couldn't afford to pay for my daughter's school uniform. i suffered awful stigma and embarrassment and financial distress ever since. and i'm glad that things have come to a head and we're able to speak about it now. my name is varchas patel. i'm here on behalf of my father, vipin patel of oxford. he was wrongfully prosecuted by post office ltd in 2011 and his health is completely shattered. it's only going to get worse, and he's not yet to receive compensation. my name is tim brentall. iran a post office in pembrokeshire from 2005 until a shortfall was found in late 2009, which i was forced to pay back some £22,500. i was then prosecuted for false accounting until my conviction was quashed in 2001. my life was left in tatters, and my customers and villagers thought i was a fraud. some of the sub—postmasters talking on bbc breakfast. now it's time for a look at the weather, with stav. hello there. this cold fine settled
i ran alderley edge post office for four years from 2005.010. i couldn't get a job for three and a half years after that. i couldn't afford to pay for my daughter's school uniform. i suffered awful stigma and embarrassment and financial distress ever since. and i'm glad that things have come to a head and we're able to speak about it now. my name is varchas patel. i'm here on behalf of my father, vipin patel of oxford. he was wrongfully prosecuted by post office ltd in 2011 and his health is...
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right, my role certainly| coming into the post office is to do a number— coming into the post officeffice is to do a number of things, of course it's to speed — a number of things, of course it's to speed up — a number of things, of course it's to speed up as much as we can and as quickly— to speed up as much as we can and as quickly as— to speed up as much as we can and as quickly as we — to speed up as much as we can and as quickly as we can a conversation, that nrust— quickly as we can a conversation, that must be the right start. surely ou must that must be the right start. surely you must be _ that must be the right start. surely you must be telling _ that must be the right start. surely you must be telling the _ that must be the right start. surely you must be telling the inquiry - that must be the right start. surely. you must be telling the inquiry when somebody in the post office knew that remote access to terminals was possible. irate that remote access to terminals was ossible. ~ , , ., i. possible. we will be providing you with all the _ possible. we will be providing you
right, my role certainly| coming into the post office is to do a number— coming into the post officeffice is to do a number of things, of course it's to speed — a number of things, of course it's to speed up — a number of things, of course it's to speed up as much as we can and as quickly— to speed up as much as we can and as quickly as— to speed up as much as we can and as quickly as we — to speed up as much as we can and as quickly as we can a conversation, that nrust— quickly...
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it is a post office scandal, caused by people, but fujitsu, the post office is responsible but fujitsuame for not speaking out and supporting the post office in doing what it was doing. the software errors _ in doing what it was doing. the software errors were errors and the scandal is the cover—up and the attempt to pin the blame on the postmasters. how complicit was fujitsu and that? —— in that. it would appear, if they provided evidence to the post office, knowing it will be used in court, and they provided staff to give evidence in court, knowing that if the details of errors were revealed, these people would never have been prosecuted, so i'm not a legal expert and i don't know what they have done wrong, but it is perverting the course ofjustice or something, there are not an expert. fujitsu continues to look after horizon and it still continues to be run, so should this be treated as an isolated issue or should they be excluded from developing other platforms like horizon? it excluded from developing other platforms like horizon? it would be very difficult _ platforms like horizo
it is a post office scandal, caused by people, but fujitsu, the post office is responsible but fujitsuame for not speaking out and supporting the post office in doing what it was doing. the software errors _ in doing what it was doing. the software errors were errors and the scandal is the cover—up and the attempt to pin the blame on the postmasters. how complicit was fujitsu and that? —— in that. it would appear, if they provided evidence to the post office, knowing it will be used in...
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i a legal battle with the post office. his opinion?— a legal battle with the post office._ his opinion? i agree, it is shameful and appalling, and _ his opinion? i agree, it is shameful and appalling, and i— his opinion? i agree, it is shameful and appalling, and i think - his opinion? i agree, it is shameful and appalling, and i think they - and appalling, and i think they should hold their heads in shame. that is not helping the victims, there is 555 people still waiting for this to move on, and nobody seems to be looking at that at the moment. mr seems to be looking at that at the moment. ~ . ,., seems to be looking at that at the moment. ~ . , , moment. mr patterson is still appearing _ moment. mr patterson is still appearing before _ moment. mr patterson is still appearing before the - moment. mr patterson is still appearing before the inquiry, | moment. mr patterson is still. appearing before the inquiry, but his evidence so far has already added to the long list of questions facing the post office and its former bosses. theo leggett, bbc news. up to 2,800 jobs are t
i a legal battle with the post office. his opinion?— a legal battle with the post office._ his opinion? i agree, it is shameful and appalling, and _ his opinion? i agree, it is shameful and appalling, and i— his opinion? i agree, it is shameful and appalling, and i think - his opinion? i agree, it is shameful and appalling, and i think they - and appalling, and i think they should hold their heads in shame. that is not helping the victims, there is 555 people still waiting for this to move...
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office _ notified an employee of the post office and david gray of the post office _ office and davidto that set _ the 2008 arq issue and similar terms to that set out in a proposed witness _ to that set out in a proposed witness statement, which you have previously — witness statement, which you have previously narrated. and the various steps _ previously narrated. and the various steps that _ previously narrated. and the various steps that should be taken by fujitsu — steps that should be taken by fujitsu and post office to address the issue — fujitsu and post office to address the issue including, and then you have _ the issue including, and then you have set— the issue including, and then you have set them out between e and e. yes. . :. . have set them out between e and e. yes. , ., , . ., have set them out between e and e. yes. , .,, . ., :, , yes. given it was clear to fu'itsu in 2008, throughout * yes. given it was clear to fu'itsu in 2008, throughout the h yes. given it was clear to fujitsu in 2008, throughout the course | yes. given it was clear to fujitsu i in 2008, througho
office _ notified an employee of the post office and david gray of the post office _ office and davidto that set _ the 2008 arq issue and similar terms to that set out in a proposed witness _ to that set out in a proposed witness statement, which you have previously — witness statement, which you have previously narrated. and the various steps _ previously narrated. and the various steps that _ previously narrated. and the various steps that should be taken by fujitsu — steps that should be...
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tt is wider impact on the business of the post office?— post office?it was a flamboyant _ post office? it is wrong, it was a flamboyant way _ post office? it is wrong, it was a flamboyant way of _ post office? it is wrong, it was a flamboyant way of explaining - post office? it is wrong, it was a i flamboyant way of explaining what had gone on. flamboyant way of explaining what had gone on— flamboyant way of explaining what had one on. . ., :, ., had gone on. what do you mean when ou sa it had gone on. what do you mean when you say it was — had gone on. what do you mean when you say it was wrong? _ had gone on. what do you mean when you say it was wrong? the _ had gone on. what do you mean when you say it was wrong? the wider - you say it was wrong? the wider im act, you say it was wrong? the wider impact. at _ you say it was wrong? the wider impact. at the — you say it was wrong? the wider impact, at the time _ you say it was wrong? the wider impact, at the time it _ you say it was wrong? the wider impact, at the time it wasn't - impact, at the time i
tt is wider impact on the business of the post office?— post office?it was a flamboyant _ post office? it is wrong, it was a flamboyant way _ post office? it is wrong, it was a flamboyant way of _ post office? it is wrong, it was a flamboyant way of explaining - post office? it is wrong, it was a i flamboyant way of explaining what had gone on. flamboyant way of explaining what had gone on— flamboyant way of explaining what had one on. . ., :, ., had gone on. what do you mean when ou sa it...
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lee castleton was bankrupted by the post office. case there was nothing wrong with horizon at his branch. so what did he think today? i�*m sure, you know, he means it, i�*m not saying that he doesn�*t, but it�*s about doing things, it�*s about actions. some of the victims want to meet the fujitsu boss to discuss assistance and support. he said he would be happy to, apologising again for his company�*s part in their suffering. emma simpson, bbc news. we can now cross live to varchas patel, his father vipin patel who was prosecuted by the post office in 2011 after they audited him and alleged 3a,000 pounds was missing in december 2010 — after he had already made up a £44,000 shortfall. those figures are extraordinary. it must be difficult for you hearing what was said today by the man from the fujitsu are you able to describe to us what you were being told via the post office and fujitsu at the time? the post office and fu'itsu at the time? , ., , ., .,, time? yes to my father. he was alwa s time? yes to my father. he was always told
lee castleton was bankrupted by the post office. case there was nothing wrong with horizon at his branch. so what did he think today? i�*m sure, you know, he means it, i�*m not saying that he doesn�*t, but it�*s about doing things, it�*s about actions. some of the victims want to meet the fujitsu boss to discuss assistance and support. he said he would be happy to, apologising again for his company�*s part in their suffering. emma simpson, bbc news. we can now cross live to varchas...