even when they are pushing vaccines, the cdc was looking at an outbreak in provincetown's massachusetts were 5% of the cluster outbreak are vaccinated people. when they are pushing vaccines and saying you couldn't transmit it, then you otherwise. that is my biggest problem. they knew better and lied to us. >> real quickly, i interviewed former president trump just a couple of days after the lockdowns were put in place and starting to fan out across the country. he said, by easter, we are going to open up. that led every newscast and new, broadcast, cable, everything. of course it would be months later. he wanted to open up, and this is the man he depended on. what do we think of that now? >> guy: well, i think it is important that we played that mccormick exchange, because he said, "i didn't mean make people's lives difficult that way." yes he did. >> harris: thank you for joining us for this part of our breaking news coverage. for this hour, i have checked, there is no plan or at least a schedule that shows fauci will go before a senate committee. i would love to see it. he needs to se