before we wrap it up, one of■r e things i'd like to do -- i'm always looking for consensus, how do weecause political lines, how the house and the senate, how do we build consensus with the states and governors and otherev gover? i'm going to ask you in closing, if you would, just toose with an terms of actually taking us closer to consensus on something, an issue of significance relating to recycling. it could be what we're talking about today, it could be something else that's related to what we're talking about today. but -- what else do you think you want to kind of -- you have a chce to give an opening statement, give just a short closing statement with some wisdom and you've already given us a lot of that already. i'm going to ask mr. felton if you would and we'll wrap it up with ms. simon. mr. felton: thank you, senat one is, consensus is critical and we need people at the table. and i'm not suggesting people here in the room today are not at the table but one thing that's been discovered over the last four years is we're only going to solve these problems if all the stakeholde