election results, a second call in georgia made in december 2020 to then georgia house speaker david ralstonempting to get him to call a special legislative session to overturn biden's victory in the state. there's a couple other calls there, as you can see. and now this call in michigan with these -- with these local county officials. and it's unclear, kate, if the special counsel is, you know, has this audio himself, if he doesn't, i think there's no question that he wants to get it. and it's still unclear if they'll use this in the trial. this is just another piece of evidence against donald trump that they could potentially use. >> alayna, great to see you, thank you so much. >> thank you. >>> i'm joined by senior legal analyst and u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, elie honig, ladies and gentlemen, he is back again with more for you. this tape is -- says a lot. it is evidence that is sort of a pattern by donald trump. the fact that he was willing, as president, to reach out to people who were really at a ground level, not -- he was already talking to the high-level fol