and as an interpreter for henry kissinger and for former us president jimmy carter, robert dailey is now the director of the wilson centers kissinger institute on china in the united states. and he joins me tonight from washington, dc. mr. bailey is good to have you with this on this friday, when henry kissinger, when he helped open china in the early 19 seventy's. was there ever any speculation that the fundamentals of global economics and also doing a politics were about to be for ever altered? you know, they knew that they were doing something historic and that it was likely to unfold in ways that they couldn't anticipate so that they knew the scale of what these meetings uh you know, with the scale of change that they imply. but they didn't know the specifics about what they imply they were trying to solve nixon and kissinger. a far more specific problem, which is the problem of balancing against the soviet union. that was what this move was primarily about. they knew that it was going to have larger impacts and that, but their goals didn't involve all of the subsequent changes t