[upbeat music] - [announcer] "firing line" with margaret hoover is made possible in part by robert granieri, vanessa and henry cornell, the fairweather foundation, the tepper foundation, peter and mary kalikow, the asness family foundation, the beth and ravenel curry foundation, the mckenna family foundation, charles r schwab, the eric and wendy schmidt fund for strategic innovation, and by the following. corporate funding is provided by stephens inc. and by pfizer inc. - coleman hughes, welcome to "firing line." - it a pleasure to be here. - you are a writer, a podcaster, a musician, and you have recently written a book, "the end of race politics: arguments for a colorblind america." the concept of a colorblind america is often misunderstood. when you say, "a colorblind america," what do you mean? - so when i say, "a colorblind america," i mean, you're white, i'm black and hispanic, but i'm gonna try to treat you without regard to your race, and i'm gonna ask you to treat me without regard to my race, to the extent that we can. and we're both gonna ask the government to never treat us diff