and um, you know, people were not like history took more angry and very concerned about rodney latrice, his democratic party strategist and former deputy campaign manager at the ben. it's on his, in for the 16. she joins a slot from dallas. we to in case of the conversation before the here present by and the apologies. but let me ask you again, how do you feel? now when you try to take stock of what's happened, i still feel shocked. it just, it didn't happen that long ago. and in some part, i'm also not surprised at all because again, access to guns in this country is it there's, there's no regulations, almost in a lot of states. they're literally the regulations. but um, you know, it's in some part, it's shocking. and in some part it's just very angry and because this is not a new issue and it continues and still nothing is being done or is it just that? so it was also a case of the powder i zation of politics in america that has been building up. oh, absolutely. and i mentioned previously to you that this has been an ongoing issue where the rhetoric is been escalated, the rise and ha