we have an additional guest, glad to welcome ron maclean. good to have you. both of you are latter-day saints. tell us a little bit about your faith and what has inspired you to be involved in the community and interfaith gatherings. >> let me say, i have been a member of the church for 27 years. i joined as an adult, what we call a convert. the thing that impressed me most was our focus on family values and focus on living within your means and other aspects of how we practice that i, from my previous experience, head of deep-seated feeling that they would be of great use and utility if we could take to the community. the church believes in being part of the fabric of the community in which it is located. i felt that as an african-american i could serve my community well in oakland if i would get involved in interfaith efforts that promote some of the values we hold. it's about, for example, living within your means. it is about abstinence from drugs and alcohol. call that, if you will, our values regarding what we put into our bodies. always being measured,