karandeev, as well as taras shevchenko, who is the commissioner of the pavilion, and how are they preparing in general for communication with such a person, well , they said that they are not preparing yet, well, let's see, they say, he will speak, and already we will react, well, to the event that will take place, to the words that will be said, well, we'll see, but my colleagues and i somehow got the impression that... they probably heard about this pietrangel botofoka only today, but these are just our guesses, but now we will talk specifically about this pavilion at the 60th biennial with, well, actually with the curator victoria bovykina, victoria, good afternoon, and first tell us about this miscommunication with the ministry, because we also discussed earlier that you cannot to reach them somehow, but finally somehow it happened. tell me how you did find a common language, thank you for the question and thank you for covering the previous process, in fact, the establishment of communication depends more on the representatives of the ministry of culture and information policy, because