suzanne norbury from the rspca. suzanne norbury from the rspca.nne. yes. thank you very much for joining there. suzanne. yes. thank you very much forjoining us there. suzanne. yes. thank you very much for joining us this afternoon . now, we've seen over afternoon. now, we've seen over the years the christmas campaigns, you know, a dog is for life, not just for christmas . is it still a thing that people do try to give pets as christmas presents to one another? i think some people do. >> we know that animals make a really amazing addition to any family, but we'd really recommend about against giving them as presents not just now at christmas, but any time of the yeah christmas, but any time of the year. it's really important that people really carefully consider what's involved. so we do find that people give presents pets as presents. so we hope to just encourage people to really think it through. and if they are looking for a pet to really consider adopting rather than shopping . shopping. >> right. when you say adopting, how does that work? what

what is the rspca's view on the new rules? the rspca has lona view on the new rules?scalation-— measures are taken to prevent escalation. ., ., .. , , measures are taken to prevent escalation. ., , , ., escalation. you accept the number of incidents of — escalation. you accept the number of incidents of out-of-control _ escalation. you accept the number of incidents of out-of-control dogs - incidents of out—of—control dogs causing injury has risen in 2018. england and wales, 22000 and 2022. the number of hospitalisations, people attacked by dogs has almost doubled since 2007. you accept there is an issue here?— is an issue here? absolutely. there is an issue here? absolutely. there is an issue here? absolutely. there is an issue- — is an issue here? absolutely. there is an issue. we _ is an issue here? absolutely. there is an issue. we have _ is an issue here? absolutely. there is an issue. we have known - is an issue here? absolutely. there is an issue. we have known this - is an issue here? absolutely. there is an issue. we have known this for| is an issue. we have

the rspca is also seeing people starting to leave xl bullies at its centres.aced with, unfortunately, is a deadline of new year's eve, that if we haven't rehomed the xl bullies that are in our care, that are ready to be rehomed, we are going to have to be in the really unfortunate situation that they're going to have to be put to sleep, so we're working incredibly hard to ensure that those dogs are being rehomed that tare able to be rehomed, but we're also then seeing abandonments coming in as well. so it's very much a changing pattern from day to day. drax is now living with bane, richard's other xl bully and the family are taking the ban seriously. we are lucky enough to own our own home, so we've got a big garden and secure fences. we did put in some extra gates to keep the dogs away from the main gate, just to be on the safe side. and then we've just stepped up our training with both of the boys. the ban came after a series of dog attacks on people by xl bully—type dogs. to legally keep their dogs, owners must buy a certificate of exemption, have them micr

the rspca is also seeing people starting to leave xl bullies at its centres. deadline of new year's eve that if we haven't rehomed the xl bullies that in our care that are ready to be rehomed, we are going to be in the really unfortunate situation that they're going to have to be put to sleep. so we are working incredibly hard to ensure that those dogs being rehomed that are able to be rehomed, but we're also then seeing abandonments coming in as well. so it is very much a changing pattern from day—to—day. drax is now living with with bain, richard's other xl bully and the family are taking the ban seriously. we are lucky enough l to own our own home, so we are a big garden and secure fences and stuff. _ we did put in some extra gates to keep the dogs . away from the main gate. just to be on the safe side. and then we just stepped up our l training with both of the boys. i the ban came after a series of dog attacks on people by xl bully type dogs. to legally keep their dogs, owners must buy a certificate of exemption, have them microchipped, insured, neutered,

the rspca is also seeing people starting to leave xl bullys at its centres.e of new year's eve that if we haven't rehomed the xl bullys that in our care that are ready to be rehomed, we are going to be in the really unfortunate situation that they're going to have to be put to sleep. so we are working incredibly hard to ensure that those dogs being rehomed that are able to be rehomed, but we're also then seeing abandonments coming in as well. so it is very much a changing pattern from day—to—day. drax is now living with bain, richard's other xl bully and the family are taking the ban seriously. we are lucky enough l to own our own home, so we are a big garden and secure fences and stuff. _ we did put in some extra gates to keep the dogs . away from the main gate. just to be on the safe side. and then we just stepped up our l training with both of the boys. i the ban came after a series of dog attacks on people by xl bully type dogs. to legally keep their dogs, owners must buy a certificate of exemption, have them microchipped, insured, neutered, muzzled and o

the rspca is also seeing people starting to leave xl bullies at its centres. a deadline of new year's eve that if we haven't rehomed the xl bullies that in our care that are ready to be rehomed, we are going to be in the really unfortunate situation that they're going to have to be put to sleep. so we are working incredibly hard to ensure that those dogs being rehomed that are able to be rehomed, but we're also then seeing abandonments coming in as well. so it is very much a changing pattern from day—to—day. drax is now living with with bain, richard's other xl bully and the family are taking the ban seriously. we are lucky enough l to own our own home, so we are a big garden and secure fences and stuff. _ we did put in some extra gates to keep the dogs . away from the main gate. just to be on the safe side. and then we just stepped up our l training with both of the boys. i the ban came after a series of dog attacks on people by xl bully type dogs. to legally keep their dogs, owners must buy a certificate of exemption, have them microchipped, insured, neutere

hands with the rspca.'s been called, was found by a dog walker at about 10 am. on sunday in the car park at tottenham marshes in london. but do you know what? putting him in a carrier bag like that is just it is treating him like a piece of trash , isn't of trash, isn't it? >> it's appalling. >> yeah. it's appalling. >> yeah. it's appalling. >> outrageous every >> it's outrageous. but every single and every single day single year and every single day of the year , there are stories of the year, there are stories like this about animal cruelty. and we are supposed to be a and yet we are supposed to be a nafion and yet we are supposed to be a nation of dog lovers. it's nation of dog lovers. but it's also no as well. also no kindness as well. >> christmas day, because of >> on christmas day, because of course, lost on christmas course, he was lost on christmas day, in bag on day, found in the bag on christmas and had a much christmas eve and has had a much better christmas because he better christmas day becau

changing injuries horrific life changing injuries we, we have to park some of this stuff at the moment the rspcajob. on no, because it's theirjob. oh no, we have perhaps our time because it's theirjob. oh no, we this.�* perhaps our time because it's theirjob. oh no, we this. i perhaps our time because it's theirjob. oh no, we this. i don't1aps our time because it's theirjob. oh no, wethis. i don't1aps do. time on this. i don't think we do. i think the time has been, the time to time has passed and we have to we continue with this we have to continue with this and to be put and they will have to be put down. sometimes in life, you down. and sometimes in life, you just have accept that you just have to accept that you have cut your losses. have to just cut your losses. and this and unfortunately, on this occasion, it's going to mean the death bullies. death of quite a few xl bullies. >> just say they live >> yeah, i just say they live for to 14 years, right? for 10 to 14 years, right? >> so if you if, know, if >> so if you if, you know, if you getting a puppy now, you were getting a puppy now, the

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and the rspca is actually trying to recommend that we here in the uk limit our cats access to the outside itself is cruel. my cat climbs the wall before he can be allowed to go outside and it's what cats do , it's what cats do. what cats do, it's what cats do. >> interesting . now isabel is a >> interesting. now isabel is a cat owner and your little cat's going through a procedure this morning. >> hector, just got admitted to the vets and is about to be neutered so he can go outside. and he is desperate. we've almost cut off paws and his almost cut off his paws and his nose many times, slamming the nose so many times, slamming the door so doesn't. door shut. so it doesn't. >> as paws. >> it's not as paws. >> it's not as paws. >> cutting off. >> the cutting off. >> the cutting off. >> well, not today, no. but i i'm conflicted this. i have i'm conflicted on this. i have to i totally want my cat to to say, i totally want my cat to go out. i think it's to cruel keep them in. but i do believe that the population is that the bird population is being damaged and hurt by by cats. a has to be smar

now, there is no evidence scientific as proved by the rspca and efra to if there's no scientific evidenceangerous, then why are they so overrepresented when it comes to dog attacks ? dog attacks? >> we've got the statistics . >> we've got the statistics. >> we've got the statistics. >> i mean, in terms of the dog attacks, um, only half of the dog attacks that we've seen, and there has been a massive rise in there has been a massive rise in the last five years up 60. um to five years ago. now, this isn't necessarily down to the dogs , it necessarily down to the dogs, it is down to the owners of these particular dogs , um, that particular dogs, um, that haven't had perhaps the adequate socialisation during the pandemic that owners have perhaps underestimated the massive commitment that owning a dog is the training that's involved, the socialisation in and understanding what a dog is, to be honest with you, reading their behaviour signals and being responsible owners. for me, i just wish that we were looking at a brand new licensing scheme coming into this country, um, that even perhaps buil