where's ruby? because they thought she'd be in jail. where's ruby? it's crazy. it's crazy. that was -- the minimum number is 18,000 for ruby. but they think it's probably about 56,000. but the minimum number is 18,000 under ruby freeman, where she ran back in there when everybody was gone and stuffed -- she stuffed the ballot boxes. >> not true. and the reason where's ruby was trending is because rudy giuliani was the first to tweet about it, to post about it. congressman, if what rudy giuliani does, the damage is worth 148 million, how much more do you think with the former commander in chief at the time the sitting president saying you should be in jail? >> i mean, infinitely. i mean, again, i was listening to that and i sometimes forget, you know, we get numb to donald trump and to what he says and how he acts. that was at the time the president of the united states of america, who was supposed to be defending people in america. that's his prime job. picking two women -- let's be honest why they were picked, because they're black. let's be clear. who were passing a ginge

ruby's motive for oswald's murder was revealed to be his love for kennedy. ruby had said in court. i cannot understand why such a great man as kennedy should not be among us now, but how jack ruby managed to get himself through the police to the nearest point to harvey brought oswald and killed him is a question that remains unanswered. in its final report in 1979, the house select committee on assassination, which was in charge of the kennedy assassination, stated that ruby's assassination of oswald was not a solo act. the result of our investigation shows that ruby's entry into the police station was probably accompanied by the assistance of people. michael collins piper is one of the authors who has reviewed the documents released by the fbi and pointed out the role of the zionist regime in the assassination of kennedy. collins piper says: ruby had a trip to israel in 1955. in his book the final judgment, hyper meets ruby with an old friend. the night before john kennedy's assassination, he points out. meyers is an arms smuggler to the occupied territories. hyper writes now we a

collins piper says that ruby made a trip to israel in 195. in his book final judgment, hyper meets ruby with one of his old friends, lawrence mears the night before jandi's assassination, he mentions. he is a smuggler of arms to the occupied territories. iper writes . now we all know that jack ruby was a salaryman of the lenski syndicate. the lenski syndicate was a multinational mafia group in which italian-american jews were active during those years. in the following years, various assumptions were made about the way kennedy was assassinated and the factors involved in it. assumptions based on the number of bullets fired and the direction of the bullets were different. the soviet union, the cuban mafia, the black organization, the political establishment. and military industrial complexes, other suspects in the kennedy case became the warren commission believed that it had a simple case. three bullets and a killer. but two things happened that day that made this almost impossible. the first is a film taken by abraham zafradour while standin

ruby said in court, "i don't understand why a big man like kennedy shouldn't now." but how jack ruby able to get to the closest point to harvey oswald by passing the police and kill him is a question that remains unanswered. the house of representatives select committee on assassination, which was responsible for investigating the assassination of john kennedy , stated in its final report in 1979: ruby's assassination of oswald was not an isolated act. the result of our research shows ruby's entrance to the police station. it was probably accompanied by the assistance of people. michael collins piper is one of the authors who reviewed the documents published by the fbi organization and pointed out the role of the zionist regime in kennedy's assassination . collins piper says that ruby had a trip to israel in 1955. in his book the final judgment, hyper meets ruby with one of his old friends , lawrence mears, the night before jandi's assassination. he points out that mirz is an arms smuggler to the occupied territories. iper writes that now we all know that jack ruby was a salaryman of

[bleep] [bleep] [bleep]. >> you are going to jail, ruby. you're going to get locked up, ruby. you are all going to [bleep] jail. you piece of [bleep] [bleep]. >> [bleep]. i hope you like jail because that's where you're going on your way to hell. >> what do you make of him saying he is not responsible for what we just heard? >> the jury said different. that's what counts. i'm not surprised he said that, but the jury said different. >> thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you for having me. >>> i'm joined now by a pair of former federal prosecutors. ellie, we were talking about this last night. and just, you said you thought they were going to get what they were asking for which was $24 million each. they got 100 million on top of that. >> i didn't think they were going to get that much. that number took me by surprise. i think the size of the verdict is a reflection of just how over the top, how destructive rudy giuliani's lies were. look what he did to these innocent victims who never asked for this. they never engaged with him. he picked them out. he destroyed their liv

ruby freeman had to leave her home for weeks for her safety.sitting behind her as she testified about all the threats and harassment had done to her, how they made her regret even becoming an election workering in the first place, that job she loved. none of what was said about the two women which resulted in their lives being turned upside down, none of it was true. ruby freeman and shaye moss sued rudy giuliani for defamation. and giuliani admitted in the course of that case what he said was false, and therefore a federal judge found rudy giuliani liable, literally liable as in he has to pay for his lies about these two innocent women and today in federal court a damages trial got under way in which jurors will decide how much money rudy giuliani has to pay ruby freeman and sheae moss for what he did to them. that comp scission could reach as high as $43 million. additional punitive damages could amount to -- the sky's the limit. one way to look at what happened today as the latest chapter of rudy giuliani's descent, the judge in the defamati

ruby said a stranger hoped the two would be hanged at the u.s. capitol.e sitting close enough to hear your neck snap." giuliani declined to testify at the trial, but he doubled down outside the courthouse. >> do you regret. >> of course i don't regret, i told the truth. they were engaged in changing votes. >> there's no proof of that. >> you're damn right there is. >> reporter: today's judgment is just the most recent setback in the years-long fall from grace for the 79-year-old once known as america's mayor. rudolph giuliani burst onto the scene in the 1980s. >> giuliani cultivated an image as a mafia fighter. he successfully used what was a relatively new racketeering statute to prosecute members of organized crime. he successfully rode that image into city hall in new york. >> throughout our history, the principle that no person is above or beyond the law has been etched into the foundation of the american legal system. >> reporter: in 1993, giuliani beat indumb bent david dinkins in a race for mayor of new york city. >> there was a feeling new york ci

ruby franke?e his's mom name. >> reporter: franke's 12-year-old son brings this neighbor to tears. >> this boy has been -- he needs wounds. >> reporter: the house hours away. hill de brant was a marriage counselor who treated sex addiction with the work through life star and joined forces with franke in a life coaching business called connections. >> all of us want connections and want to have relationships where we feel close and where there's love. >> you two stay on that corner. >> reporter: body camera footage obtained by abc news showcasing those intense moments when police swarmed franke's home the day she was taken into custody. >> police department. >> reporter: after the arrest of both franke and many wonder if there were missed warning sgzs. juju chang sat down with her. >> she made me sleep outside in the snow and duct taped me. i wasn't allowed to speak to anyone. >> what in theory was the justification for the duct tape? >> the duct tape was in her words an external reminder to me tha

ruby freeman and her daughter moss. rudy giuliani spread vicious lies and conspiracy theories about them after the 2020 election. boy how things have changed. this is 2001. rudy giuliani once gracing the cover of "time" magazine. person of the year 2001. after then mayor rudy giuliani led new york city through the horrible attacks of 911, they called him a tower of strength. how the mighty have fallen. let's bring in michael represents both shay moss and ruby freeman, congratulations on the verdict. happy is not the right word but you may feel like some justice was delivered. >> we are thrilled. i am so happy for our clients who are the true heroes for what they have done for standing up for themselves and other election workers and willing to do that, knowing they are being attacked. knowing they will be attacked more. they have been attacked by powerful men with huge megaphones and to be able to testify under oath and to open themselves up and to prevail this message from a jury is just complete vindication for everyt

and just as ruby freeman said, there is still a lot more ahead. joining me now is jon lankford, one of the attorneys representing ruby freeman and shaye moss. he also serves as counsel at the nonprofit legal center protect democracy. john, thank you for joining me tonight. and congratulations to you and your clients for getting some measure of accountability there. i just wonder, since you are intimately involved in the proceedings and all this, whether you can tell us what miss moss and miss freeman's reaction was to the number assigned to the damages by the jury here, nearly hundred and $50 million. >> thank you for having me tonight. i can tell you the reaction to the verdict. miss moss, shaye, told me tonight, justice was served. she said you know people shiite finally had a chance to hear me tell my story and miss freeman, ruby, said, and they listened. so setting aside the number for a moment, this was an incredible moment for miss freeman and miss moss. i think actually one of the most moving parts of the trial, being there, was when we pla

but he targeted me, lady ruby.mall business owner, a mother, a proud american citizen, who stands up to help fulton county run an election in the middle of the pandemic. >> proud american citizen, ruby freeman. volunteered to be an election worker in the 2020 election as a favor to her daughter. her daughter whose name is shaye moss, had worked for the fulton county elections department for years. she loved her job. she was great at her job. she loved helping people cast their ballots. in 2020, fulton county was short on election workers so ms. moss asked her 62-year-old retired mom if she could come help out as a tempworker for the election. and the two of them worked that election. they worked together through election day and election night, and the following days, helping process ballots in atlanta at the state farm arena which is where the ballots were being counted. ruby freeman and shaye moss showed up and did their work. that would have been the end of it. we would have never needed to know the names ruby f

you're gonna get locked up, ruby. that's election fraud, ruby. what was on the usb drive, ruby? you're all going to [ bleep ] jail, you piece of [ bleep ]. >> hey, i hope you like jail because that's where you're going on your way to hell. >> now, these are the most tame of the ones that were actually played in the courtroom. and, again, they didn't do anything wrong. they did exactly what we ask people to do when we have a democracy. they have to work to make our elections free and fair by actually working the elections. and for that, for raising their hand, they were attacked. they were threatened, and they were left in fear for their actual lives. >> the lies rudy giuliani told about me and my mommy after the 2020 presidential election have changed our lives. and the past few years has been devastating. i can never move back into the house that i called home. i will always have to be careful about where i go and who i choose to share my name with. >> can you imagine that? i mean really. we shouldn't even know what their names are. they should be people who simply were working

ruby freeman. to be in a more lectern work in the 2020 election as the -- new -- -- -- so -- her 62-year-old retired mom if she could come help out, just as a temporary worker for the election. the two of them worked that election. they worked together through election day, and election night the following days, helping process balloting lantern at the state farm arena which is where the ballots are being counted. ruby freeman and -- they should upended their work, and that would have been the end of it. we would have never needed to know the names ruby freeman and shaye moss, and they probably would have preferred it that way. if you weeks after the election trump lawyer rudy giuliani concocted a story. he started claiming ruby freeman and shaye moss, he he identified publicly by name, he said they had stolen the election from donald trump in georgia. he said video from the state from arena which was running on a loop on fox news showed them acting like drug dealers, that was the language he used,

please send our congratulations to ruby freeman and shaye moss. we appreciate it. >> i will, thank you for having me. >> thanks a lot. the rudy giuliani verdict is the latest im a series of very significant damage judgments lodged against donald trump and his allies. we know that in order to appeal the verdict, trump has already had to pay a 5. 5 million-dollar verdict that a jury decided that he owes to e. jean carroll for defamation of her. i detect a pattern here. carol is -- in her second damaging trial that takes place in january. trump's partner alex jones has a 1. 5 billion dollar judgment about the lies he made about the 11 children murdered at the sandy hook elementary school. -- gonna avoid bankruptcy to avoid paying to families. and dominion voting systems it shoved in nearly 100 million dollar settlement from fox news. the ap reports, the deal for a significant amount of money even for the company the size of fox, represents about one quarter of the 6. 9 million billion dollars that the company made last year before taxes. -- to approx

but he targeted me, lady ruby.s owner, a mother, a proud american citizen, who stands up to help fulton county run an election in the middle of the pandemic. >> proud american citizen, ruby freeman. volunteered to be an election worker in the 2020 election as a favor to her daughter. her daughter whose name is shaye moss, had worked for the fulton county elections department for years. she loved her job. she was great at her job. she loved helping people cast their ballots. in 2020, fulton county was short on election workers so ms. moss asked her 62-year-old retired mom if she could come help out as a tempworker for the election. and the two of them worked that election. they worked together through election day and election night, and the following days, helping process ballots in atlanta at the state farm arena which is where the ballots were being kouchbted. ruby freeman and shaye moss showed up and did their work. that would have been the end of it. we would have never needed to know the names ruby freeman and

i do not just play that video ruby potentially defaming ruby freeman and shaye moss again on monday because it's almost comical how much the man over promises and not delivers. it seems here that giuliani continuing to lie about ruby freeman and shaye moss matters. rudy giuliani is already claiming he is broke as broken be. last year, here really got thrown in jail after his ex-wife alleged he had not been paying his divorce settlement. last month, the accounting firm that giuliani used to value it adds its for that divorce settlement, that accounting firm also sued rudy giuliani, alleging he did not pay his bills. giuliani was even sued this year by one of his own former lawyers for allegedly not pink his own lawyers bills either. so, rudy giuliani claims he is real broke, and this defamation suit can cause him tens of millions more, unless he is hiding a few more luxury near city apartments he can sell, this is all likely to hurt him financially, a lot. despite these financial straits, giuliani is choosing to continue to open himself up to more potential defamation suits with statements l

will ruby freeman and shaye moss see any of that money? the attorney for the two women is out front. >>> also breaking, israel killing three of its own hostages. they believe they actually managed to escape hamas. >>> we'll talk to the father of an american hostage about whether he thinks his son may also be trying to escape. >>> and arizona calling up the national guard for help at the border. we're showing you the migrant surge that they are seeing there. let's go out front. >>> good evening, i'm erin burnett. the breaking news, $148 million. that is what rudy giuliani has been ordered to pay georgia election workers ruby freeman and shaye moss after conaccusin them of rigging the 2020 election. it's a jaw-dropping number. it is the actual verdict form that breaks down into numbers. ruby freeman awarded $16.1 million for defamation, $20 million for emotional s distress. shaye moss awarded $20 million for emotional distress. and then they were awarded $75 million in punitive damages. when you add that all together, that's where you get th

please send our congratulations to ruby freeman and shaye moss. we appreciate it. >> i will, thank you for having me. >> thanks a lot. the rudy giuliani verdict is the latest and a series of very significant damage judgments lodged against donald trump and his allies. we know that in order to appeal the verdict, trump has already had to pay a 5.5 million-dollar verdict that a jury decided that he owes to e. jean carroll for defamation of her. i detective pattern here. carol is -- in her second damaging trial that takes place in january. trump's partner of shown as a 1.5 billion dollar judgment about the lies hemade about the 11 children murdered at the sandy hook elementary school. -- gonna avoid bankruptcy to avoid paying to families. and dominion voting systems it shoved in nearly 100 million dollar settlement from fox news. the ap reports, a deal for a significant amount of money even for the company the size of fox, represents about one quarter of the 6.9 million billion dollars that the company made last year before taxes. -- to approximate a

and just as ruby freeman said, there is still a lot more ahead. joining me now is jon lankford, one of the attorneys representing ruby freeman and shaye moss. he also serves as counsel at the nonprofit legal center protect democracy. john, thank you for joining me tonight. and congratulations to you and your clients for getting some measure of accountability there. i just wonder, since you are intimately involved in the proceedings and all this, whether you can tell us what miss moss and miss freeman's reaction was to the number assigned to the damages by the jury here, nearly hundred and $50 million. >> thank you for having me tonight. i can tell you the reaction to the verdict. miss moss, shea, told me tonight, justice was served. she said you know people shiite finally had a chance to hear me tell my story and miss freeman, ruby, said, and they listened. so setting aside the number for a moment, this was an incredible moment for miss freeman and miss moss. i think actually one of the most moving parts of the trial, being there, was when we play

i am lady ruby.ay is a good day a jury stood witness to what rudy giuliani did to me and my daughter and held him accountable. for that i am thankful. today is not the end of the road. we still have work to do. rudy giuliani was not the only one who spread lies about us. others must be held accountable, too, but that's tomorrow's work. for now, i want people to understand this -- money will never solve all of my problems. i can never move back into the house that i called home. i will always have to be careful about where i go and who i choose to share my name with. i miss my home, i miss my neighbors, and i miss my name. i've heard some of you. don't be sad for me. don't waste your time being angry at those who did this to me and my daughter. we are more than conquerers. pray for us as we continue to fight the good fight of faith. i tell my attorney often, my friends say that god knew who to give this assignment to. if they had been then, they wouldn't have gone through this. god chose me to go thro

and ruby freeman was forced into hiding. >> i've lost my name and i've lost my reputation. i've lost my sense of security all because a group of people starting with number 45 and his ally, rudy giuliani, decided to scapegoat me and my daughter, shaye, to push their own lies about how the presidential election was stolen. >> i second guess everything that i do. it's affect my life in a major way, in every way, all because of lies. >> reporter: giuliani claimed moss and freeman plotted to kick ballot watchers out of fulton county. he also pushed the false narrative that they had brought in suitcases filled with fake ballots for biden and scanned them into the system multiple times. and giuliani described surveillance video from that day he claimed showed ruby and her daughter exchanges usb memory sticks containing a fraudulent vote count. >> when you look at what you saw on the video, which, to me, was a smoking gun, powerful smoking gun -- quite obviously surreptitiously passing around ballots as if they're viles of cocaine. you don't put votes under a table. wait until you

there were ominous voicemails. >> you're going to jail, ruby.ou're going to get locked up, ruby. >> reporter: people showed up at their homes, freeman telling jurors she felt "terrorized." >> i can never move back into the house that i called home. i will always have to be careful about where i go and who i chose to share my name with. i miss my home. i miss my neighbors. and i miss my name. >> reporter: giuliani had conceded in court filings that he made false statements, but incredible, even during the trial, he doubled down on his lies. do you regret what you did to ruby freeman? >> of course i don't regret. i told the truth. they -- they were engaged in changing votes. >> reporter: there's no proof of that. >> you're damn right there is. stay tuned. >> reporter: in the end, giuliani chose not to testify. >> i don't regret a damn thing. >> reporter: tonight he vowed to appeal. >> i am quite confident when this case gets before a fair tribunal, it will be reversed so quickly it'll make your head spin. >> reporter: giuliani's appeal is a long s

you're going to gonna get locked up ruby. it's election fraud, ruby. what was on the usb drive ruby? you're all going to [bleep] jail you piece of [bleep]. >> i hope you like jail because that's where you're going on your way to hell. >> these are the most tame of the ones that were actually played in the courtroom and again, they didn't do anything wrong. they did exactly what we asked people to do when you have a democracy. they have to work to make our elections free and fair by actually working the elections and for that, for raising their hand they were attacked. they were threatened and they were left in fear for their actual lives. >> the lies rudy giuliani told about me and my mommie after the 2020 election have changed our lives. and the past few years have been devastating. i can never move back into the house that i called home. i will always have to be careful about where i go and who i choose to share my name with. >> can you imagine that? i mean really. we shouldn't even know what their names are. they should be people who simply were wor

giuliani did defame ruby freeman and shaye moss. what the jury has to decide in the coming days is how much money rudy giuliani should have to pay these two women for that defamation. today in his closing statement freeman and moss' attorney asked the jurors to award the women $24 million each. and that is just in damages for their injuries. their attorney is also asking the jury to award punitive damages of whatever they think is appropriate in order to send a message to rudy giuliani. now, in this trial we have gotten even more detail about the threats freeman and moss faced because of giuliani's conspiracy. we heard a voice mail left on ruby freeman's answering machine threatening to burn her store down. people left messages saying she should be lynched. they described how they fantasized about hearing the sound of her neck snapped. and they found her and they intimidated her in her home. shaye moss was so afraid of trump's riled up supporters that in late 2020 she changed her hairstyle from this to this so that strangers wouldn'

i am lady ruby. today is a good day. a jury still witness to what rudy giuliani did to me and my daughter. and held him accountable and for that i'm thankful. today is not the end of the road. we still have work today. rudy giuliani was not the only one who spread lies about us, and others must be held accountable, too. but that's tomorrow's verdict. for now, i want people to understand this. money will never solve all of my problems. i can never move back into the house that i called home. i will always have to be careful about where i go, and who i choose to share my name with. i miss my home. i miss my neighbors. and i miss my name. i've hurt some of you. don't be sad for me. don't waste your time being angry at those who did this to me and my daughter. we are more than conquers. pray for us as we continue to fight the good fight of faith. i tell my attorneys, often, my friends say god knew who to give this assignment to, if it had been them -- god chose me to go through this. he knows that i'll tell everyone whose pa

there were ominous voicemails. >> you're going to jail, ruby.e going to get locked up, ruby. >> reporter: people showed up at their homes, freeman telling jurors she felt "terrorized." >> i can never move back into the house that i called home. i will always have to be careful about where i go and who i chose to share my name with. i miss my home. i miss my neighbors. and i miss my name. >> reporter: giuliani had conceded in court filings that he made false statements, but incredibly, even during the trial, he doubled down on his lies. do you regret what you did to ruby freeman? >> of course i don't regret. i told the truth. they -- they were engaged in changing votes. >> reporter: there's no proof of that. >> you're damn right there is. stay tuned. >> reporter: in the end, giuliani chose not to testify. >> i don't regret a damn thing. >> reporter: tonight he vowed to appeal. >> i am quite confident when this case gets before a fair tribunal, it will be reversed so quickly it'll make your head spin. >> reporter: giuliani's appeal is a long shot.

but ruby freeman and shaye moss did testify at the trial. can you remind us what they said, because again, these are volunteers? >> they were. ruby freeman was a volunteer, and samos was a paid, georgia election worker who took quite a lot of pride in doing that job. that is what she told the jury. they both took the stand over the course of the week, as the jury listened to them. not only did they speak about what they did after the 2020 election and how their names have been ruined, how they fear for their lives, how they are afraid to introduce themselves to others, they also, when each were on the stand, their voice mails, a chilling voice mails, racist voicemails and text messages arrived and played for them. and then their lawyers had them react to them. they described how scared they were, how they want to the police, how they were advised by the fbi to flee their home. and how terrifying it was not just in the days after the 2020 election, as rudy giuliani and others were saying these things about them, but in the year since, that th

you are going to get locked up, ruby. that's election fraud, ruby. what was on the usb drive, ruby? you are all going to [bleep] jail, you peace of [bleep] [bleep]. >> hey, if this is shaye moss, hey [bleep], i hope you like a jail. that's where you're going on your way to hell. >> based on, what were these taunts relayed? if you picked up your phone, and there is a message like that on it, and, frankly, some of the other ones are so riddled with obscenity's, so riddled with racial slurs, great to be back most of them, making it entirely incomprehensible. today, we heard from shaye moss herself, and she said her worst fear, and imagine this, after being an election worker, after having what was said about her in the defamatory statements made, that she is now afraid her son would find out her mother would be, maybe, hanging from a tree, or get in the news at school his mother had been killed. can you imagine what that was feeling like, and how it still does? she had to tell him racism is real, and she felt like the worst mother ever. i have to say, directly, to someone like shaye mo

>> as lady ruby put it, it's a good day. it's one step on a long journey for them toward accountability and toward trying to rebuild their lives. but today was a good day for them. >> what do you make of giuliani sticking by his awful lies and comments about your two clients? >> for me, it really highlights the importance of this kind of accountability. we're quite hopeful that this verdict will make a difference there and we're going to continue to pursue that verdict. >> you know what surprised me, the verdict was, what, about $100 million more than your clients had originally asked for, right? >> the total was $148 million across the three categories of damages. some of which we had put numbers on for the jury and some of which we leave the jury to come up with numbers on their own. i think they were moved by the clients' testimony. >> did it surprise you that at the last minute after repeated insistence that he would testify that he decided not to show up and testify? >> yes and no. i think mr. giuliani and his colleague

but ruby freeman and shaye moss did testify earlier in the trial. can you remind people what they said? because, again, these were volunteers. >> they were. well, ruby freeman was a volunteer, and shaye moss was a paid georgia election worker who took quite a lot of pride in doing that job. and that's what she told the jury. but they both took the stand over the course of this week as the jury listened to them. and not only did they speak what they did after the 2020 election and how their names have been ruined, how they fear for their lives, how they are afraid to introduce themselves to others, they also when each were on the stand, there were voice mails, chilling voice mails, racist voice mails and text messages read and played for them. and then their lawyers had them react to them. and they described how scared they were, how they went to the police, how they were advised by the fbi to flee their home, and how terrifying it was not just in the days after the 2020 election as rudy giuliani and others were saying these things about them, but in

the ruby eemanio case, $16 million for ruby freeman. $16. million for shaye moss for defamation. another $20 million to ruby freeman for otnal distress. another 0 million for shaye moss on emotional distress. $75 millior both on punitive s. that's the $148.169 million. my question is hre you going to collect? at this moment, rudy giuliani owes $500,000 in unpaid taxes. the has a lien on his pm beach property. he's selling his upper east side property, and his consulting firm defaulted on a debt for a phone bill. how are you going to collect? >> sure. we have already put the pieces in motion for that. we are intending to collect every nickel of it. we'll see how much we ultimately find and how much we ultimately recover. but we are putting the pieces together right now. >> if you remember -- >> i'm sorry. some sound played. go ahead. keep going. >> we're putting those pieces in play right now. we were putting them in play prior to the verdict. so we intend to pursue this verdict. >> just to sort of help our audience understand how this works, can these ladies put a lien on his pro

great granddaughter, and ruby stein's white cousin. a letter from this wonderful lady. i said, dear mrs.. hicks and i went on to tell her that i was the great great granddaughter of william harrison hare ran, and what did she really write me back? and shsaid, now we are cousins. and you either call me martha, our cousin martha. she won me over right there. we arrange for martha, her husband karl, and their granddaughter, natalie to meet their black cousins in lodi. they. what was that moment like? i wanted to cry. i, i really did before i met you. i wasn't sure if you were going to be excited about having black cousins. there are a lot of people who that would not be good news. it would not have happened 40 years ago. i think we've made quite a bit of progress. it's an honor for us to be an example of progress. yes, it is really well put and honor well put. there he is a handsome guy. the rands a heritage born from a family tree with black and. white roots, a kodak moment. i recently spoke to audrey and she told me the next grande fami

ruby freeman and shaye moss' legal team, they're a skilled team. and they're moving fast to collect the money that they can. so giuliani has been very public in the past several months saying he didn't even have money to fight this lawsuit that these two women brought against him and now he has a lot of debts. i mean, it's very substantial. when you look at them all stacked up, $146 million, just under that $150 million is what he's going to owe moss and freeman, attorneys' fees, other lawyers that he knows $1.4 million to. they're suing him for that separately. and then he had all of these unpaid phone bills that went through court. he has a lot of debts. that said, even though he has debts, ruby freeman and shaye moss are going to try and get at least some of the money they can out of him. at least a piece of it. and they are counting what he has. they have already identified, he has a manhattan co-op that he's trying to sell for more than $6 million. it hasn't sold yet. i just looked. but he has a condo in florida. they're going to try to grab t

you're going to get locked up, ruby. that's election fraud, ruby. what was on the usb drive, ruby? you're all going to [ bleep ] jail, you piece of [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. >> hey, this is shaye. i hope you like jail, because that's where you're going, on your way to hell. >> and based on what were these taunts relayed? i mean, imagine if you picked up your phone and there was a message like that on it. and frankly, some of the other ones are so riddled with obscenities, so riddled with vicious racial slurs, we have to actually beep out most of them, making it entirely incomprehensible. today we actually heard from shaye moss herself, and she said that her worst fear, and imagine this, after being an election worker, after having what was said about her and the defamatory statements that were made, that she is now afraid that her son would find out that her mother would be maybe hanging from a tree, or getting the news at school that his mother had been killed. can you imagine what that was feeling like and what it still does? she had to tell him that racism is real and that she felt l

the jury spoke on behalf of voiceless people like ruby and shaye.t the people who would say things like this about things that people were doing their jobs -- they will now understand that their lives have a price tag. >> so, von, you testified yourself at a bond revocation hearing for harrison floyd, one of the codefendants and donald trump's r.i.c.o. case which is being prosecuted by d.a. fani willis in fulton county. here is another thing some people might not know. harrison floyd showed up in the d.c. courthouse to allegedly show his support for rudy giuliani. let's be clear, he was indicted in fulton county for intimidating ruby freeman and shaye moss. do you think that harrison floyd is showing up in court was an attempt to intimidate miss freeman and miss moss? >> i can't say what it was from his perspective. it certainly was no mistake that he showed up in that courthouse. when he was there, who took out appropriate measures to ensure their safety. this just underscores the ridiculousness of this situation. we would have to scramble the way

. >> you're going to jail, ruby. you're going to get locked up, ruby. that's election fraud, ruby. what was on the usb drive, ruby? you are all going to [ bleep ] jail, you piece of [ bleep ]. >> rev, if you actually know what rudy was like, it seems like this is kind of the fitting end. he played in racism. racism was his stock and trade as mayor, and this is how he ends, just one of his many cases. >> and when you look at the fact that his being mayor, he was the one that champions broken windows, stop and frisk, where he did not feel that parts of the city mattered like other parts of the city, that we had no rights that anyone had to respect. he would meet with black leaders when we had a shooting of a young man who took his key out in the vestibule of his house and the police shot him 41 times hitting him 19 times, and it was his keys, not a gun. and rudy wouldn't even meet with black leaders, forget black activists like me. he wouldn't meet with the state comptroller. he's always operated like it's us against them and we are more important. now, the irony, i would say, what h

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the attorney for ruby freeman and shaye moss is gonna join me alive. plus, the four times indicted republican front runner is once again echoing the anti immigrant language of adolf hitler. but house republicans seem much more concerned about their feckless impeachment inquiry into president biden. i'll ask congressman -- about all of it. also today, as kate cox fleas texas to get an abortion, ted cruz fleeced from reporters when he's asked about her story. this isn't a messaging problem, it's a policy problem. later, my conversation with the families of hostages taken captive by hamas. i'll ask them about their meeting with president biden this week, their frustrations and how they find hope during the most difficult moment of their lives. ♪ ♪ ♪ ever since donald trump entered the political spotlight years ago, it's kind of seemed like he never really pays a price for all the lies he spread. at times, his conspiracy theories have taken hold so fast, so fast, they outpace the ability to fact-check them. just as often, his disregard for the truth has be

you're goi tget locked up, ruby. that's election fraud, ruby. what was on the usb drive, ruby?re all going to [ bleep ] jail, you piece of [ bleep ]. >> reporter: so that usb drive that was mentioned there was not a usb drive. that was a ginger mint, and actually, during closing arguments, the attorney for ruby freeman and shaye moss actually had a ginger mint with him. that's what this was all about. during her testimony, ruby freeman said she had ginger mint still on her. she talked about how the judge had been coughing the day before and that she wanted to offer a ginger mint to her at that point. just i mean, the testimony was just extremely powerful. we saw a taste of that obviously before the january 6th committee with shaye moss testifying, but hearing what they've gone through since these lies were spread about them was really devastating and i think it would have an impact on the jurors, ana. >> yeah, crying on the stand, talking about being afraid to use your real name, to show your face, having depression and stress disorders, and so, paul, giuliani could end up owin

. >> and fresh off their 148 million dollar court victory over rudy giuliani, the women he defamed, ruby freeman and shaye moss, are now filing a new lawsuit against rudy. >>> but we begin tonight with the phrase, poisoning the blood of our country. if it sounds like nazi talk, it's because it is. in chapter 11 of adolf hitler's fascist manifesto he writes, all great cultures of the past perished only because the originally creative race died out from blood poisoning. that little turn of phrase has since been parroted by other autocrats like the far right leader of hungary, viktor orban, has described muslim, middle eastern asylum seekers as a poison. this is the same guy who said he opposes immigration because it leads to, quote, mixed race europeans. now the phrase is being repeated by the leading republican candidate for president, donald trump. he had a rally, we wasn't quoting vladimir putin, praising orban, or praising insurrectionists as hostages, had this to say about immigrants. >> they let, i think the real number is 15, 16 million people into our country, when they do that, we

>> and ruby strong! watch out santa clara county! future officer, right ruby?> smiling and ready to arrest everyone. her family has a lot to celebrate, though, this holiday. they say ruby's last scan was cancer-free. >>> and during the holidays, ginger bread houses are built all over the world. but in tonight's project earth story, some very special homes were built to help us reconsider the world as our planet warms. elizabeth cook takes a bite. >> reporter: this holiday season, a very special ginger bread creation is on display. it's an entire city, and the concept is very timely good the theme for this exhibition is climate change. >> reporter: as greenhouse gases blanket the earth, global warming and climate change are in turn altering our world. punishing heat, intense and more frequent weather events, and devastating wildfires. this exhibit looks to inspire the public to think about ways to deal with the impacts of climate change. the project was initiated by a uk-based charity dedicated to promoting sustainable design ideas. >> it's 50 plus architecture,

rudy giuliani's lawyer in this case of ruby freeman took the pass on questioning her. really press her. that really probably would have back fired even more. this was a woman who had a pretty good life going for herself and had this, you know, business of her own, was really loved in the community, and she really was impacted by this dramatically. her life will never be the same because of these lies that were spread about her, which we could say again are just false and bogus and based off of someone looking at a video on the internet and thinking that there's some sort of criminality because they don't understand basics about the voting process. there's just this assumption of criminality about voting that we see in many cases, and cities that were targeted by the trump campaign. you know, you look at detroit, you look at philadelphia, you look at atlanta, those are the cities that they really focused on. if we get back to reality here, donald trump performed better in those cities than he did in 2016. this allegation that there was some sort of mass fraud and that's

ruby said before he set foot on german soil. he announced that this meeting is a sign that the jewish nation remembers its difficult and painful past well, but still looks towards the future and welcomes the strengthening of friendship and cooperation with the government of the new generation of germany. german chancellor merkel and the authorities of this country are preparing to hold a grand celebration on the occasion of the anniversary of the establishment of diplomatic relations between the zionist regime and germany. the germans are now fifty years old it is possible that they committed themselves to the zionists. germany, in the days when the federal republic of germany is being established, the jews of this country also form a central council for themselves and hope to provide the best facilities for the remaining 20,000 german jews . they mention the jewish community in germany and the acceptance of judaism as an identity. since then , the central council of german jews has become the largest jewish organization in the

>> and ruby strong! watch out santa clara county! future officer, right ruby? >> smiling and ready to arrest everyone. her family has a lot to celebrate, though, this holiday. they say ruby's last scan was cancer-free. >>> and during the holidays, ginger bread houses are built all over the world. but in tonight's project earth story, some very special homes were built to help us reconsider the world as our planet warms. elizabeth cook takes a bite. >> reporter: this holiday season, a very special ginger bread creation is on display. it's an entire city, and the concept is very timely good the theme for this exhibition is climate change. >> reporter: as greenhouse gases blanket the earth, global warming and climate change are in turn altering our world. punishing heat, intense and more frequent weather events, and devastating wildfires. this exhibit looks to inspire the public to think about ways to deal with the impacts of climate change. the project was initiated by a uk-based charity dedicated to promoting sustainable design ideas. >> it's 50 plus architectur

the attorney for ruby freeman and shaye moss is going to join me, live. plus, the four times indicted republican front runner is once again echoing the anti immigrant language of adolf hitler. but house republicans seem much more concerned about their effect and peach men inquiry into president biden. alas congressman jonah -- about all of it. also today, as kate cox fleas texas to get an abortion, ted cruz fleas from reporters when he's asked about her story. but this isn't a messaging problem, it's a policy problem. and later, my conversation with the families of hostages taken captive by hamas. i'll ask them about their meeting with president biden this week, their frustrations, and how they find hope during the most difficult moment of their lives. ♪ ♪ ♪ ever since donald trump entered the political spotlight years ago, it's kind of seem like he never really pays a price for all of the lies he spread. at times, his conspiracy theories have taken hold so fast, so fast, they are pace the ability to even fact check them. just as often, his disregard for

giuliani to the end of the earth, as lady ruby said, what mr.used, these two amazing brave heros, but we will do absolutely everything we can to give them -- to track the money down and try to enforce this judgment as best we can. >> do you know at this stage i mean how much money rudy giuliani has? i know he's being sued by more than $1 million in unpaid bills, his apartment in new york is on sale for more than $6 million, that's been sitting on the market for a while now. before today's judgment he owes your clients more than $600,000 for legal fees. how do you try to collect $148 million from someone like this? >> it is are interesting anderson, mr. giuliani had the chance to produce the evidence and he never did. out of court he has repeatedly claimed he is unable to pay. and every time throughout this entire litigation the court has held him to produce records, to substantiate that. he hasn't done that. he's had the opportunities to produce the records and he hasn't so i think, you know, at this point, the jury is still out as to whether th

threaten ruby freeman.nsistency, but i'll give her an f for intelligence kwh it comes to dealing with the criminal prosecution. >> black on black crime is way before its time. it strikes me these two black defendants, two blacks for trump, both seem obsessed with ruby freeman and her daughter. it wasn't enough for them to allegedly harass them and cause them to get death threats, joining the former mayor of new york in doing that, and he's getting sued for it, rudy. if that wasn't enough, they seem obsessed with them. could that become an issue? because he, mr. blacks for trump, avoided being jailed. he got through, could this judge now be so fed up that he decides to make an example of ms. kutti? >> no, because you can't be -- the sins of another cannot be imputed to you. mcafee is not going to punish kutti if the law isn't met, if the standard isn't met by fani willis. but is it kind of setting the tone for perspective jurors to see that these defendants are so reckless that they're willing to continue th

how lawyers for georgia election workers shaye moss and ruby freeman are

we've heard not only what we heard about trump saying these things about ruby freeman, ruby freeman,she did, which were not true. but we heard the venom from the public with respect to we're going to hang you, we're going to do all these things to you. what am i saying? we're at the damage phase. the jury has to assess, how has this damaged you, how has your life changed, what should the consequences be. and our system of justice converts that to money. not only are you allowed to consider the actual damages, i had to move away from my home, what it did to my child, et cetera, my life's not the same, but what about the emotional damages and stresses and what about the jury wanting to punish, that's what punitive damages are. when you hear that and then you hear the president buttoning this up saying things that are not true, that's a big bully pulpit that affects a lot of people. that's damages 101. i would expect -- unless this defense is amazing on giuliani's portion -- that there's going to be a verdict for a lot of zeros. >>. i'm going to go out on a limb and say there's not an a