mero to the minister of defense, as well as mrs.not mistaken, she is there, there is a meeting. takes place on the eve of the nato summit in washington, which will be held from july 9 to 11 this year, and tell me, please, this preparation, what can really be prepared, we understand that the sounding of what we are inviting, well, there is ukraine in nato, we will probably not hear this phrase, yes, but this work is now such a group of ukrainian politicians, she which should give a result in your opinion, what still needs to be convinced, what still needs to be... well, you know, if we are pragmatic, then from the fact that they will write to us that we will definitely be in nato, are we on our way in nato, are we there through some bridge to nato, that’s all, sorry, as for practice, it doesn’t matter, we in 2008, we received the formula that one day ukraine will be in nato, but we have already been waiting for 16 years for this day.