artists, and this is, first of all, the leonozov group, this is a circle of writers, poets, philosophers, sabgirllin, yes, yes, yes, absolutely right, yes, he is just friends with them, exhibits at one-day exhibitions , there in the apartment of alik ginsburg, for example, with whom he is very friendly, and... he was connected with him through his brother, cousin yudin, that is, these were such long-standing, strong youthful connections that were very natural for him, were not something that he was striving for, but he was striving, of course, to somehow establish himself in official, so to speak, organizations, because well, he lived at the time in which he lived, it’s difficult for us to imagine now, that in order to feel relatively independent, you need to be associated with any creative union, but here in the sixty-first year this happened, it allowed him to exhibit from time to time at professional shows, he took this very seriously, his works were not always shown favorably, people who saw them in those years of the tens, seventies, eighties speak about this they needed a special light, th