and sally susman. so it's one of the first questions i asked sally when we spoke a couple of ago, and then we're sitting down earlier today was how did you find the to write a book, right? she got this position that one of the most important companies in the world certainly that's been in the news and she's published the book several months ago. so how sally, how did you come to do that? and and find a way to do it? thanks, joe and first, let me just please thank you for joining me today and to say that it is an honor of a lifetime to be at the miami book fair. so i feel really excited to be here today. the question, how did i find the time to? write the book is something my boss asked me repeatedly because candidly, i'd always wanted to write a book. it was a burning ever since i was that little girl you mentioned in saint louis wanting to be a journalist. and i'd written small pieces, had something in a magazine here or there. but it wasn't until the panda nemec hit that i had two things that made it