arthur, we have had the tax foundation on, scott hodge, speaking of consequences, biden's plan basically scott said it will lose about 800,000 jobs, 2% gdp, 2% loss in real wages. i think it actually would be worse than that. but the point is this. biden wants to tax and discourage success and opportunity. that's really his message. >> it's totally his message. he wants to get everything under the government up brill la. that is exactly what he wants to do and only thing he keeps them from doing that are private sector jobs and income. and when you look at the facts, larry, the facts are really very explicit, whenever you raise taxes on the rich, the economy underperforms, tax revenues from the rich go down and the poor are hammered. when ever you lower taxes on the rich, the economy outperforms, tax revenues from the rich go up, the poor, minorities, disenfranchised do well. that is exactly what you find from 110 years of u.s. data where we look at every single tax return. i just don't understand how he can sell this message when people understand clearly it just doesn't work. larry: su