there's a big game on the air, we continue the conversation with sergei aleksandrovich karaganov, i iart. sergei karaganov, about the future of russia in the east. the confrontation unleashed by the west, the processes of decomposition of society occurring there, stimulated by the elites, the long-term slowdown in the development of europe clearly indicate the future of russia in the east, south, where... the center of the world is moving. and further, a decrease in the role of europe for russia. let's listen. the new geostrategic situation is urgently demands a return to the eastern turn of all of russia, through the primary development of all of siberia, including, of course, in the urals the sibilization of the entire country. europe has been closed for many years and will never be able or should become a first-class partner, while asia is developing rapidly. needless to say, we decided to go only through the far east, the least developed, although very promising region of siberia, by the way, but now we need to return to the original project, since the western and eastern siberian