which was shannon alley, and he challenged me. he said kid if you want to do something for this community, the residents this neighborhood, do something for this alley. and i've never painted a mural in my life, i'm a visual artist, i concentrated on photography and photos press groups and individuals. and i immediately, took on this challenge. and i said gabe, we're going to start to paint muirals here and i'm going to make you famous. and to show the power of community art and the community that we have here in san francisco, i reached out to a few folks that are visual artists here in san francisco. one of them being clerence dobbs and rig o 23, are the cofounders of the proj edmontoneding. and they are wonderful great artists who saw the value in the project that we were proposing. and we worked with these two individuals, and several different visual artist here in the city. and guiding us into how to create a mural project. how to actually create a place make thating visually represents the community that is around us. we to