skyworks isn't even -- there isn't anything that made me feel skyworks should go up. was new. i think that there's this piece today about banks and oils and renaissance, wouldn't that be something if the banks and oils moved? >> i know you mentioned or maybe were complaining about dupont's price. >> what do they have to do? i look at dupont. there's ed breen. he didn't fall off a turnip truck. >> he's been around a long time now. >> -- let me tell you something. he is running it, like tyco. the stock is unchanged since he announced the breakup. you think that makes sense? >> i'm not sure, but i sense that you don't. >> i don't at all. i think this is a steel. >> what explains this reaction? >> you want id yeah see? on friday i told club members, there are people saying it's a very narrow -- lilly has a narrow approval from the fda. first of all, it wasn't approval from the fda. so that was completely wrong. but second was the most wide approval possible. that was an example of stupidity at work which is allowed, the fire departm first amendment, they never had a probl