the socom model is not near as appropriate here as it is in socom. so i think we need to take -- i'm afraid we're kind of barreling along toward that solution and i think that it's not applicable and it's another five to 10 years finding out it's not applicable when the chinese and russians aren't waiting. >> if you need someone to write a book about that operation, call up the navy s.e.a.l.s. just kidding, dan crenshaw. just kidding. so, you talked, you've explained the broad contours what have a cyber force would look like. does this mean that cyber command isn't doing its job? >> not at all. it's the reverse. you in the last four years have indicated that with the legislation that you and mike and joe manchin and jim langevin and now ro khanna have asked. in the past cyber committee. the cyber command is doing a good job with what it's given. our argument is they're not given the right forces to generate a force you need to employ. in fact, i would say, you can go back to general alexander, admiral rogers, a general particularly in his extended to