>> at the prison i work at the sonoma state newman center and also working in teaching in the seminary. i teach a course on the gospels, john, matthew and luke. >> the newman center is a catholic chaplaincy at sonoma state university. so you are acquainted with the ancient text, and acquainted with today's young people and have we've got you here to talk about the resurrection. was it a key part of your renewed interest in catholicism at the time? before that it was the passion of christ, the sufferings and the event of his dying in the way that he went through that. there was a major impact that came when i was reading the gospel of john and came to the way of the cross, when he had his cross, john says, taking his own cross, he went out there. and i saw this a few of christ just bloody with a crown of thorns and i looked on his face and just saw this serene, totally decisive face expression that he didn't care what was happening around him, he wasn't worried, upset, afraid or angry, he just was determined to get to the place of his death. and i thought, this is divine. no man could l