. >> joining me now is steven brill, cofounder of news card, which rates the reliability of news andd author of the new book, the death of truth, how social media and the internet gave snake oarsmen and demagogues the weapons they needed to destroy trust and polarize the world and what we can do about it. steven, quite a bold book. i'm glad you're here to talk about this. you also examined a.i. models repeating false claims about elections. how concerned are you, steven, about the proliferation of a.i. before the election in november? >> quite concerned. actually, the report you just showed, the results there were a little better than what we have been seeing lately. the other evident element of this, those are just cases where these generative a.i. services are at least probably trying to do the right thing, but the other danger is that people who are malign actors, in particular, the russians, can use the same a.i. to send false messages about the election, about candidates all over the place. we tracked recently, this is in the book, 167 different sites posing as local news sites