happy for all of the sub-ostmasters. , . , ., , ., ., sub-postmasters. you, how did ou sub-postmasters. james, to you, how did you know — sub-postmasters. james, to you, how did you know exactly _ sub-postmasters. james, to you, how did you know exactly get _ sub-postmasters. james, to you, how did you know exactly get drawn - sub-postmasters. james, to you, how did you know exactly get drawn into i did you know exactly get drawn into this story? we did you know exactly get drawn into this sto ? �* ., , ., , this story? i've done true stories before. this story? i've done true stories before- we _ this story? i've done true stories before. we are _ this story? i've done true stories before. we are always _ this story? i've done true stories before. we are always looking i this story? i've done true stories| before. we are always looking for something different and something original— something different and something original that you can bring to the story— original that you can bring to the story and — original that you can bring to the story and the f

mr patel was a sub—postmaster who came after mr ishaq. sub-postmaster who came after mr ishat. . sub-postmasterm masters and the other statement could have been earlier from a masters and the other statement could have been earlierfrom a man called leah cot. i do could have been earlier from a man called leah cot.— called leah cot. i do recall that name. called leah cot. i do recall that name- the _ called leah cot. i do recall that name. the opening _ called leah cot. i do recall that name. the opening night i called leah cot. i do recall that name. the opening night for i called leah cot. i do recall that. name. the opening night for the called leah cot. i do recall that- name. the opening night for the case only referred — name. the opening night for the case only referred to _ name. the opening night for the case only referred to mr _ name. the opening night for the case only referred to mr patel. _ name. the opening night for the case only referred to mr patel. i _ name. the opening night for the case only referred to mr patel. i am i only referred to mr patel. i am going to try to assist

by which i mean families of sub-postmasters.— sub-postmasters. it does not surrise sub-postmasters.ers. it does not - surprise me that people's families were affected because my family was greatly affected by it as well, but the vast scale of the amount of people who have suffered losses is surprising. i would people who have suffered losses is surprising. iwould not people who have suffered losses is surprising. i would not be surprised if it turns out every office has suffered some sort of loss as this scandal unfolds. the suffered some sort of loss as this scandal unfolds.— suffered some sort of loss as this scandal unfolds. the point was made riaht scandal unfolds. the point was made ri . ht at the scandal unfolds. the point was made right at the beginning _ scandal unfolds. the point was made right at the beginning that _ scandal unfolds. the point was made right at the beginning that the - scandal unfolds. the point was made right at the beginning that the post l right at the beginning that the post office brand is actually dependent on the sub—postmasters and their relationsh

have you | met a single sub-postmaster? know, i have not. met a single sub-postmaster? have not. will you commit _ met a single sub-postmaster? know, i have not. will you commit today - met a single sub-postmaster? know, i have not. will you commit today to - have not. will you commit today to meetin: have not. will you commit today to meeting some _ have not. will you commit today to meeting some postmasters, - meeting some postmasters, discussing with them the way forward that fujitsu can assist in seeking to show that fujitsu means what it says bites apoligy and by its commitment to provide financial redress? i bites apoligy and by its commitment to provide financial redress?- to provide financial redress? i have not met any _ to provide financial redress? i have not met any sub — to provide financial redress? i have not met any sub postmasters - to provide financial redress? i have not met any sub postmasters in - to provide financial redress? i have| not met any sub postmasters in the past, _ not met any sub postmasters in the past, because i didn't feel it was app

by these sub—postmasters. .. by these investigators sub—postmasters...s who were operating separately from the police and the cps. so it was put to him that his behaviour in some of these interrogations was unprofessional. one particular case was talked about, janet skinner. she spent three months of a nine month custodial sentence in prison. she was convicted of false accounting due to a £59,000 shortfall and she has talked about prison being just horrendous in recent interviews. he was one of the people investigating her. he was asked about a comment he made in one of those interviews when he asked her, should you have got out of bed earlier? it was put to him that was completely inappropriate in a police style interview, why was he questioning her about her lifestyle? and his answer was, well, this is about a business, this is about the post office, this is about being professional and the reason i was asking her that question was this was about the post office was being run properly and her getting out of bed properly was relevant to this investigati

realjustice for the sub-postmasters? realjustice for the sub- ostmasters? ., ., sub-postmasters? sub-postmasters? the horizon compensation advisory board i compensation advisory board recognise that one of the major blocking is of getting people compensation was the fact that of the 900 plus convictions of sub—postmasters over the years, over 95 of those convictions had been overturned. all the rest were not able to claim any compensation. so the first thing that needs to be done, this is a maths problem that the british legal system has never had to deal with before and it needs a mass solution. the terms of that mass solution and the extent to which it involves, for example, churches, in overturning these convictions, is a matter yet to be fully hammered out —— involves, for example, judges. the minister has committed, and i entirely trust its commitment, that the government will be working with the horizon compensation advisory board to advise the best terms for something which is frankly uncomfortable for the british constitution, namely to have the legislature taken apart in

i it is still ongoing. -- sub-postmasters. it is still ongoing. -- sub-ostmasters. , l, l, sub-postmasters. thank you for that insiaht! young children. thank you for that insight! my _ young children. thank you for that insight! my father _ young children. thank you for that insight! my father is _ young children. thank you for that insight! my father is a _ young children. thank you for that insight! my father is a good - young children. thank you for that insight! my father is a good judge | insight! my father is a good 'udge of character. i insight! my father is a good 'udge of character, someone h insight! my father is a good 'udge of character, someone who h insight! my father is a good judge of character, someone who is - insight! my father is a good judge of character, someone who is a l insight! my father is a good judge i of character, someone who is a very godly man, and only once in my life has he ever sent me a raging text message, and it was following this itv drama and seeing the injustice that you and many others have had to suffer, and that is why i wonder, as far as you ar

sub—postmasters for criminal offences? is sub-postmasters for criminal offences?rthird statement litigation su . ort. yourthird statement litigation su--ort. :, �* ~ :, support. so, i don't know the exact date of- -- — support. so, i don't know the exact date of- -- just _ support. so, i don't know the exact date of... just repeat _ support. so, i don't know the exact date of... just repeat the _ support. so, i don't know the exact date of... just repeat the questionl date of... just repeat the question again. date of... just repeat the question aaain. ~ . date of... just repeat the question aaain. ~ , :, , date of... just repeat the question auain.~ , :, , :, again. when did fu'itsu realise that the bus, again. when did fu'itsu realise that the bugs. errors _ again. when did fujitsu realise that the bugs, errors and _ again. when did fujitsu realise that the bugs, errors and defects - again. when did fujitsu realise that the bugs, errors and defects in - again. when did fujitsu realise that the bugs, errors and defects in its. the bugs, errors and defects in its

mr reid has said he has no mate 30s sub-postmasters or| has no mate 305 sub—postmasters or sub—postmastery are fujitsu executor happy to not meet? the post office has only started doing it. why does fujitsu feel it is above that? i fujitsu feel it is above that? i don't feel the company believe that. what i do believe is that we need to get down to the entire truth and make sure it is transparent and we do notjust a jump to a particular sound bite. do notjust a “ump to a particular sound bite.— do notjust a “ump to a particular sound ode.— do notjust a “ump to a particular sound bite. what is fu'itsu's view on the sound bite. what is fu'itsu's view on one proposed _ sound bite. what is fujitsu's view on the proposed legislation - sound bite. what is fujitsu's view on the proposed legislation is? l on the proposed legislation is? think the prison sentences are appropriate or inappropriate to those found guilty? i appropriate or inappropriate to those found guilty?— those found guilty? i have no expertise- — those found guilty? i have no expertise. will _ those found guilty? i have no exper

., evidence from the subsequent sub- tostmaster? . , ., ., . sub-postmaster? to get a statement and see _ sub-postmaster? i was asked to get a statement and see if— sub-postmaster? i was asked to get a statement and see if he _ sub-postmaster? i was asked to get a statement and see if he had _ sub-postmaster? i was asked to get a statement and see if he had any - statement and see if he had any issues with the system in the post office. ~ ., issues with the system in the post office. . . ., office. we read their were two sub- postmaster _ office. we read their were two sub-postmaster is, _ office. we read their were two sub-postmaster is, i— office. we read their were two sub-postmaster is, i think - office. we read their were two | sub-postmaster is, i think that sub—postmaster is, i think that statement was taken from him as well. did it say similar things? statement was taken from him as well. did it say similarthings? i think so, without seeing it... weight is this the sum of this statement? in fact the author of the statement? in fact the author of the st

of sub-ostmasters. ., sub-postmasters.been requested and there i sub-postmasters. the call logs would have been requested and there is i have been requested and there is nothing on the call logs to indicate there was any issues with horizon. i would not be creating with the nbsc team all the time, that's their role. �* , ., team all the time, that's their role. �* ., ., team all the time, that's their role. ., ., , , role. but you would have surely obtained as _ role. but you would have surely obtained as part _ role. but you would have surely obtained as part of _ role. but you would have surely obtained as part of your- obtained as part of your investigations the call logs? that's riaht investigations the call logs? that's ri . ht and investigations the call logs? that's right and the _ investigations the call logs? that's right and the call— investigations the call logs? that's right and the call logs _ investigations the call logs? that's right and the call logs would i investigations the call logs? that's right and th

each solitary quite often terrified sub-postmaster sitting - terrified sub—postmaster sitting acrosslem. i’zre told they were the only ones with the problem-— told they were the only ones with the roblem. �* ,. . ., the problem. i've never said that to an bod . the problem. i've never said that to anybody- what _ the problem. i've never said that to anybody. what i've _ the problem. i've never said that to anybody. what i've interviewed, - the problem. i've never said that to l anybody. what i've interviewed, that you are _ anybody. what i've interviewed, that you are the _ anybody. what i've interviewed, that you are the only one who is got this issue. _ you are the only one who is got this issue. we — you are the only one who is got this issue, i've never said that and i will stick— issue, i've never said that and i will stick to _ issue, i've never said that and i will stick to that. in issue, i've never said that and i will stick to that.— will stick to that. in this document, _ will stick to that. in this - document, sub-postmaster will stick to that. in this _ document, sub-pos

there are thousands of sub postmasters and sub—postmistress is affected by this.e for compensation, for example. so yes, this is a very widespread affair.— example. so yes, this is a very widespread affair. there we must leave it and _ widespread affair. there we must leave it and we _ widespread affair. there we must leave it and we are _ widespread affair. there we must leave it and we are going - widespread affair. there we must leave it and we are going to i widespread affair. there we must leave it and we are going to hear| leave it and we are going to hear from the inquiry injust leave it and we are going to hear from the inquiry in just about a few seconds' time and that starts at 10.00 uk time and also the committee who is going to be questioning those representatives from fujitsu and also alan bates, who led the sub postmasters in this particular push back against the convictions. last week bbc breakfast spoke to some of the postmasters whose lives were ruined by the scandal. i worked for the post office for 27 years and then i was convicted of false acco

you picked up a line that came to light yesterday about sub—postmasters and sub—postmistresses beingis up with that? this came out of the inquiry and it was almost an aside at the end of the evidence of a very junior woman who still worked for fujitsu and used to work in their fraud and litigation support office. it was asked by a barrister for one of the sub—postmasters who pointed out that the crown prosecution service were still prosecute... well, had taken over the prosecution of sub—postmasters and post office workers from the post office but that they were still doing it using horizon evidence. now this set alarm bells ringing amongst an awful lot of people because, as we know, the horizon platform has been stated by a high courtjudge to be not remotely reliable before 2010 and not much more reliable between 2010—2017. the post office stopped prosecuting in 2013, so did the cps take on the prosecution of sub—postmasters using unreliable horizon evidence? also, what was the role of the post office investigators? over recent weeks in the inquiry, we have seen a parade of post off

to the - sub-postmasters and their families, sub—postmasters and their families, we apologise.we apologise. gypsy apologises and is sorry for— we apologise. gypsy apologises and is sorry for our part in this appalling _ is sorry for our part in this appalling miscarriage ofjustice. appalling miscarriage of justice. today. — appalling miscarriage ofjustice. today, mr patterson explained how the company has been aware of bugs and errors in the horizon system for more than two decades.— and errors in the horizon system for more than two decades. there's lots of evidence — more than two decades. there's lots of evidence of— more than two decades. there's lots of evidence of us _ more than two decades. there's lots of evidence of us informing - more than two decades. there's lots of evidence of us informing the - more than two decades. there's lots of evidence of us informing the post | of evidence of us informing the post office _ of evidence of us informing the post office of— of evidence of us informing the post office of that data we have just discussed, bugs and errors, and how

point out they— on in 2015 —— sub—postmaster point out they had — on in 2015 —— sub—postmaster pointoubts and were really concerned about what was happening and how the post office was moving forward and how they could _ was moving forward and how they could not— was moving forward and how they could not make a living as a sub—postmaster in those days. we could not make a living as a sub-postmaster in those days. we are in a situation — sub-postmaster in those days. we are in a situation now— sub-postmaster in those days. we are in a situation now where, _ sub-postmaster in those days. we are in a situation now where, if— sub-postmaster in those days. we are in a situation now where, if there - in a situation now where, if there going to be emergency legislation, something done, but it's not simply about the people who are prosecuted? absolutely not because there are many _ absolutely not because there are many sub — absolutely not because there are many sub postmasters, and i know some, _ many sub postmasters, and i know some. who — many sub postmasters, and i know some, who gave mo

tim was a former sub—postmaster in pembrokeshire.tion in 2010, you had a criminal record from 2010 and it took 11 years for that to be overturned, didn't it? yes, i got my conviction quashed in 2021. today, we spent lunchtime together here watching the prime minister, watching the post office minister make new promises. does any of that bring you any more hope? yes, this is what we have been calling for, the quashing of all convictions, the government to legislate for it, to move it on, because it has been 2.5 years since my conviction was quashed and nothing has really happened for me in that 2.5 years. so hopefully this will now speed up the whole process for everyone else who has got convictions and also bring the recompense that we all deserve to the forefront. what sort of emotional difference and life difference did it bring to you when that conviction was overturned? what impact will that have for other individuals who this can happen for? a massive difference. i can walk with my head held high up again. people started to beli

mr; family business and i was a sub postmistress.— family business and i was a sub postmistress.part—time, he had a job at manchester airport. part—time, he had a job at manchesterairport. but part—time, he had a job at manchester airport. but i was the one who had the contract. the auditors came in at about eight o'clock in the morning and before they even counted the office i got suspended over the phone, i wasn't allowed in the office when they were doing the audit, they suspended me straightaway and said i wouldn't get the office back. that was 12 years ago. we both got prosecuted, me and my husband. we got told if we didn't plead guilty i was going to prison in manchester. so we pleaded guilty. we lost the family, we lost the house, we now live in a caravan. it's the same again, isn't it? same old story — it's the same again, isn't it? same old story in— it's the same again, isn't it? same old story. in so many people. this is helinu old story. in so many people. this is helping people _ old story. in so many people. this is helping people come forward. it is helping people

postmaster's._ sub postmaster's.erminals, they would have to be relied on to be trustworthy, following company protocol. from what you could see was there any policing of their activity? was there any policing of their activi ? , , ., activity? very limited. they had sort of a dual _ activity? very limited. they had sort of a dual control— activity? very limited. they had sort of a dual control function . activity? very limited. they had i sort of a dual control function that two people had to authorise the access, but there was no logging of any actions that were taken. in the light of that, i felt that the reliability of horizon from a subpostmaster�*s perspective was... did fujitsu have an interest in hiding the bugs and faults that were in the system? i’m hiding the bugs and faults that were in the system?— in the system? i'm aware that they actually disclosed _ in the system? i'm aware that they actually disclosed some _ in the system? i'm aware that they actually disclosed some of - in the system? i'm aware tha

so there are a lot of sub—postmasters who are very cynical about that.ensation, that was a live issue in the select committee as well. alan bates, mr bates from the drama mr bates vs the post office, saying he had not yet had a first offer of compensation and this was despite the post office minister kevin hollinrake stating on the record in parliament that every applicant to the group litigation scheme, their specific compensation scheme, their specific compensation scheme that alan bates is part of, would receive their first offer of compensation within a0 working days of making their application to stop mr bates told the committee he put in his application at the beginning of october. it was now 66 working days since his obligation went in and he still had yet to receive an offer. on top of all of the problems with compensation, you would have thought that the one thing the government could get right was making an offer to the man who was sacked more than 20 years ago and has had to lead a two decades long campaign to get himself and so many other peo

and - sub—postmasters and their communities. and when. sub—postmasters and their. communities.rolled into overdrive. i- vilified and humiliated, the brand then rolled into overdrive. i thinkj then rolled into overdrive. i think that may— then rolled into overdrive. i think that may be _ then rolled into overdrive. i think that may be it _ then rolled into overdrive. i think that may be it. complicated - then rolled into overdrive. i think. that may be it. complicated subject as well, _ that may be it. complicated subject as well, computer— that may be it. complicated subject as well, computer stuff, _ that may be it. complicated subject as well, computer stuff, very - as well, computer stuff, very difficult _ as well, computer stuff, very difficult. ., ~ as well, computer stuff, very difficult. ., ,, , ., , as well, computer stuff, very difficult. ., ~' , ., , . difficult. thank you very much indeed. that _ difficult. thank you very much indeed. that concludes - difficult. thank you very much indeed. that concludes our i difficult. thank you very much i indeed. that concludes o

we have clearly let society down and the sub—postmasters down.ice to be at the front of everything that we�*re doing, and that was wrong. lee castleton was bankrupted by the post office. a fujitsu expert witness told thejudge in his case there was nothing wrong with horizon at his branch. so what did he think today? i�*m sure, you know, he means it, i�*m not saying that he doesn�*t, but it�*s about doing things, it�*s about actions. some of the victims want to meet the fujitsu boss to discuss assistance and support. he said he would be happy to, apologising again for his company�*s part in their suffering. emma simpson, bbc news. we can now cross live to varchas patel, his father vipin patel who was prosecuted by the post office in 2011 after they audited him and alleged 3a,000 pounds was missing in december 2010 — after he had already made up a £44,000 shortfall. those figures are extraordinary. it must be difficult for you hearing what was said today by the man from the fujitsu are you able to describe to us what you were being told via the pos

some of the sub—postmasters talking on bbc breakfast.ith stav. hello there. this cold fine settled spell of weather is continuing today. the best of the sunshine, i think, across more southern parts of the country. but here again, we have more of that easterly breeze taking the edge off the temperatures. further north, a bit more cloud around. big area of high pressure dominating the scene around it. we're getting some clouds in off the north sea that's affecting northeastern parts of the country. so this is where we're seeing the cloudier skies through the rest of today. north and east scotland and eastern england may be thick enough for the odd spots of light, rain or drizzle. light rain or drizzle. a little bit of weakness over the high ground. best the sunshine, southern southeast england. some glimmers of brightness for western wales, northern ireland and also western scotland. temperature wise, maybe degree up on yesterday, highs of six oi’ seven degrees. factor in the wind though, it'll feel much colder than that. as we head throu

the only pub sub that's acceptable. of course i can sub. the good news keeps coming. there are a lot more publix locations coming to louisville, but it's not, sadly to the upper but not. which is sad i should say. the upper west side of manhattan, which is where we are. i need a publix because i have never been. we're shopping is a pleasure. andrea. >> apparently eating is a pleasure too. >> yes it is, yes. when you go to the beach, you stop there, get your sub, they wrap it up for you, put in your backpack and don't sleep on those publix cookies. >> two or donuts or donuts? >> yeah. >> are you paid advertisers? >> i am not, i'll gladly do it for free. i just love publix. >> well, next to the world's oldest female water skier. >> yes, joanne jacobsen young, a fish haven, utah, says she started water skiing in 1961 and now, at age 92, guinness world records has just crowned her the world's oldest female water skier. >> look at that. >> but for young, it's not just a personal pastime, she says. she's joined on her outings in utah's lake, bare by her children and grandch

i met lots of the sub-postmasters _ you think? i met lots of the sub-postmasters as - you think?s they all you think? i met lots of the - sub-postmasters as they all have sub—postmasters as they all have these stories, they have tremendous levels of anxiety and depression, they have post—traumatic stress, they have post—traumatic stress, they lives have been ruined. you meet people like this in your home towns and you can't belief this sort of thing could happen to them, then you sort of think, well, organisations do sometimes do bad things and then, you start to understand the sorts of things the post office have done. it is, this is why people support the sub—postmasters because they can see the central truth of their story. thank you both. thank you again. you can come on every night shazia if you want. i'm not evenjoking. thank you want. i'm not evenjoking. thank you for being with us richard. thank you. thank you. that's all from us tonight. faisal�*s here tomorrow. breaking news from around the world, 24 breaking news from around the world, 2a hours a day. this is bbc news.

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it to prosecute sub postmaster oh, my god. . , to prosecute sub postmaster oh, my god. ., , ., , ., godont of my eyes- they _ god. it has doubled right in front of my eyes. they found - god. it has doubled right in front of my eyes. they found evidence j god. it has doubled right in front i of my eyes. they found evidence of com - uter of my eyes. they found evidence of computer bugs _ of my eyes. they found evidence of computer bugs doing _ of my eyes. they found evidence of computer bugs doing just _ of my eyes. they found evidence of computer bugs doing just that - of my eyes. they found evidence of computer bugs doing just that in i of my eyes. they found evidence ofj computer bugs doing just that in 76 branches. but instead of coming clean the post office kept insisting in public their system was robust, as they had since the turn—of—the—century. in 1999, the post office launches fujitsu's horizon it system in 20,000 post offices. it seems to show that thousands of sub postmaster had cash shortfalls and over the next decade 983 branch managers are prosecuted, with many sent to pris

that the justice for sub-ostmasters. �* . sub-postmasters.j sub-postmasters. alan bates's - organisations that he set up, it was 2013 when i reached out to them, read the e—mail to myself, really it was a time of despair, and looking for answers, and watching the programme and seeing also how actually people came together, i remember those days, it's really, really... it's difficult to... we live... i live in a cautious way, my life is very restricted now, i have to be very careful how much i take on because i don't want to have that fear of going into another episode. so you have to restructure your whole life. and you can't... i so you have to restructure your whole life. and you can't... whole life. and you can't. .. i want to ask you. _ whole life. and you can't. .. i want to ask you. how — whole life. and you can't. .. i want to ask you, how are _ whole life. and you can't. .. i want to ask you, how are you _ whole life. and you can't. .. i want - to ask you, how are you compensated for being sectioned three times? what is that sum of mo

to these sub-masters — regard now? yes, thank you. to these sub-masters and _ regard now?d now? yes, thank you. to these sub-masters and their families, we i sub—masters and their families, we apologise. fujitsu apologises and is sorry for our part in this appalling miscarriage ofjustice. this inquiry is examining those events forensically over many, many decades, which involved many parties, not least fujitsu in the post office but other organisations and individuals. we are determined to continue to support this inquiry and get to the truth where ever it lays and at the conclusion of the inquiry under guidance from this inquiry, engage with government on suitable compensation for the sub—postmasters and their families. can i start with your background, please _ can i start with your background, please you _ can i start with your background, please. you are a director of fujitsu — please. you are a director of fujitsu services limited, is that right? — fujitsu services limited, is that riuht? . . fujitsu services limited, is that right?_ which - fujitsu services limited,

how early did you know fujitsu had remote access to the sub postmasters terminals?ited the head office in september 2012 and met with their senior technical person. in the course of that meeting, he was open about what they were doing, the capabilities and day they operated. he told me they routinely had remote access to advanced terminals, and they would often do that without specific consent or kwledge of individual sub postmasters. if they were remotely accessing branch systems, they would have to be relied on to be trustworthy to be following company protocol. as far as you are aware from what you could see, was there any policing of activity? very limited. they had a duacontrol function, which meant two people had to authorize the excess. but there was no logging of the actual actions undertaken. in light of that, i felt the reliability from the sub postmaster perspective was potentially in doubt, and would be looking at unsafe convictions . did they have a mind hiding the bugs in the system? >> i'm aware that they disclosed some of those bugs and defects to th

sub-postmasters.utions of the sub-postmasters. he was then asked about _ the sub-postmasters. he was then asked about compensation. - the sub-postmasters. he was then asked about compensation. is - the sub-postmasters. he was then | asked about compensation. is there the sub-postmasters. he was then i asked about compensation. is there a moral obligation, _ asked about compensation. is there a moral obligation, mr— asked about compensation. is there a moral obligation, mr paterson, - asked about compensation. is there a moral obligation, mr paterson, for. moral obligation, mr paterson, for you to _ moral obligation, mr paterson, for you to contribute? _ moral obligation, mr paterson, for you to contribute? i _ moral obligation, mr paterson, for you to contribute?— you to contribute? i think there is a moral obligation _ you to contribute? i think there is a moral obligation for _ you to contribute? i think there is a moral obligation for the - you to contribute? i think there is l a moral obligation f

we have clearly let society down and the sub—postmasters down.post office to be at the front of everything we were doing, and that was wrong. lee castleton was bankrupted by the post office. a fujitsu expert witness told thejudge in his case there was nothing wrong with horizon at his branch. so what did he think today? i'm sure, you know, he means it, i'm not saying that he doesn't, but it's about doing things, it's about actions. some of the victims want to meet the fujitsu boss to discuss assistance and support. he said he would be happy to, apologising again for his company's part in their suffering. emma simpson, bbc news. more details are emerging about who knew there were issues with the post office computer system, and when. 0ur economics correspondent andy verity is here with more. thanks, reeta. way back in 1999, the post office begins the roll—out of horizon. within weeks, some sub—postmasters report that it's generating errors. that goes to the top. we've seen the minutes of a post office board meeting in september �*99 where director

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they're investigating potential fraud offences in relation to the wrongful prosecution of hundreds of sub—post by the post office. the uk health security agency issues a week—long cold weather alert as parts of england still struggle with floods following a week of heavy rain. hello, i'm lauren taylor. let's return to that breaking news we brought to you earlier. an alaska airlines flight from the us city of portland has made an emergency landing after part of the aircraft blew out in mid—air. listen to this emergency call from a member of the cabin crew. social media video shot inside the boeing 737 max 9 shows a window section missing. the passengers remain in their seats, oxygen masks dangling, looking remarkably calm. alaska airlines said the 177 passengers and crew landed safely back at portland. it has temporarily grounded its 65 max aircraft for inspection. the aeroplane has a chequered safety record. in 2019, it was grounded worldwide for 18 months after two fatal crashes. for more on this, i spoke to aviation expertjohn strickland. well, it's certainly come as fresh news to me this mo

one will remember that sub effort cooks is a country that had a long period of segregation and a party. and it's only been 30 years since we've into the democratic dispensation. so the memory of that segregation and those human rights of, you know, violations against the majority of the people of south africa all fresh in the minds of many of africans. and also many of the politicians. and that was really much of the motivation force of africa taking this forward and saying that it would speak up on behalf of the palestinian people. and that he would raise the issues that it's raised in its application at the hague and saying that he does a signatory to the genocide convention. and the for has a responsibility to act. yeah, this is not just about south africa's own history. you were going to tell us about the history between south africa and the palestinians. there is a shared solidarity history. there isn't there? yes, absolutely. when we look back to, to present a former president, nelson mandela was of africa's 1st democratic president. he had a lot of engagements with depend listin

, threatening to sub—postmasters... threatening to sub—postmasters. .. they were doing _ lawyers do? well, there is a bit of that, they were doing what - lawyers do? well, there is a bit of. that, they were doing what lawyers do but whey were doing it a bit too much, they were concealing the truth sometimes, they were misleading... how do you know?— how do you know? there is lots of evidence they _ how do you know? there is lots of evidence they didn't _ how do you know? there is lots of evidence they didn't disclose - how do you know? there is lots of. evidence they didn't disclose things to the courts they should have done, civil cases and sometimes criminal cases and they helped the boards of the company, it looks for these are alinvestigations now but it look like they help the board mislead parliament and the courts, so there is a really serious set of allegation.— is a really serious set of alletation. , . , . �* allegation. they really are. am i naive to be _ allegation. they really are. am i naive to be shocked _ allegation. they really are. am i

it is an a- allin: sub-postmaster appeals. it is an appalling miscarriage _ sub-postmaster appeals.ub-postmaster appeals. it is an appalling miscarriage ofjustice. | sub-postmaster appeals. it is an l appalling miscarriage ofjustice. it happened a very long time ago, in the 90s, but hearing about it again just shows what an appalling miscarriage ofjustice it is for everyone affected, and it is important those people get the justice they deserve it.- important those people get the justice they deserve it. should they all be exonerated? _ justice they deserve it. should they all be exonerated? that _ justice they deserve it. should they all be exonerated? that is - justice they deserve it. should they all be exonerated? that is what - justice they deserve it. should they j all be exonerated? that is what the compensation _ all be exonerated? that is what the compensation schemes _ all be exonerated? that is what the compensation schemes are - all be exonerated? that is what the compensation schemes are about. | compensation schemes are about. hundreds were left bankrupt and only a sma

we heard from nine former sub—postmasters on a bbc breakfast special yesterday. sub—postmasters on ate—owned post office used its power over two decades to relentlessly pursue hundreds of innocent men and women, leading to many of them losing their businesses, their homes, their reputations, in some cases their liberty and even their lives. that is why what happens in there today, and in the weeks and months ahead, matters so much to all of them. ben, thank you. we are going to be talking to two other victims of the scandal later in this programme. and we will keep following what is going on, of course, the inquiry, which begins today, throughout the day on the bbc news channel. seven minutes past seven. charlie is taking a look at targets in the nhs, something we talk about all the time. there are always targets. we often hear they are not met. sometimes quite hard to collate those targets and match them with what is really happening. almost all key nhs targets — in a&e, cancer care, and planned proceedures — have been missed for seven years or more across the uk. analysis by bbc ne

to the sub—postmasters and their families, we apologise.logises and is sorry for our part in this appalling miscarriage of justice. this inquiry is examining those events forensically over many, many decades, which involved many parties, not least fujitsu and the post office, but other organisations and individuals. we are determined to continue to support this inquiry and get to the truth wherever it lays and at the conclusion of the inquiry and the guidance from this inquiry engage with government on suitable contribution and redress to the sub—postmasters and their families. for more on this we go live now to our correspondent zoe conway, who is outside the inquiry in central london. what put the main themes that emerged during this morning session? what paul patterson was being asked about was the role of fujitsu in the prosecutions of sub—postmaster is because over many years for gypsy employees were giving evidence in court cases that led to sub—postmaster is going to prison. they were signing with the statement saying that the horizo

bbc breakfast gathered a group of sub—postmasters together this morning.

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i am joined by aroom fewer sub postmaster in pembrokeshire.10, and it took 11 years for that to be overturned, didn't it. yes took 11 years for that to be overturned, didn't it. yes i got my conviction — overturned, didn't it. yes i got my conviction quashed _ overturned, didn't it. yes i got my conviction quashed in 2021. i overturned, didn't it. yes i got my| conviction quashed in 2021. today, we have spent _ conviction quashed in 2021. today, we have spent lunchtime _ conviction quashed in 2021. today, we have spent lunchtime together| we have spent lunchtime together here, watching the prime minister, watching the postmaster minister making new promises, does any of that bring you any more hope? yes. that bring you any more hope? yes, this is what — that bring you any more hope? yes, this is what we _ that bring you any more hope? yes, this is what we have _ that bring you any more hope? yes, this is what we have been calling for, this is what we have been calling for. the — this is what we have been calling for, the quashing of all convic

they're investigating potential fraud offences in relation to the wrongful prosecution of hundreds of sub—postmastersy the post office. hello, i'm lucy grey. an alaska airlines passenger plane with 177 people on board has been forced to make an emergency landing in the us state of oregon, after a window and a section of the fuselage blew out in mid—air. the company has grounded its entire fleet of 737 max nine aircraft while safety inspections take place. america's national transportation safety board is investigating, and the uk's civil aviation authority said it was monitoring the situation very closely. simonjones reports. relief for all 177 passengers and crew on board to be back on the tarmac after a mid—air emergency. the plane forced to land with a hole in its side and a window missing. the pilot, recorded earlier outlining to air traffic control the severity of the situation. it happened as the plane was 35 minutes into its flight to california. i look up and the oxygen masks were hanging from the ceiling. and then i look to my left and there's this huge chunk, part of the airplanejust, like,

of the uk's worst miscarriages ofjustice resumes as hundreds of sub postmasters wrongly convicted of fraud are to have their convictions overturned. and last year's record—breaking heat is found to have significantly impacted the global water cycle by exercerbating severe storms and developing droughts faster. hello, i'm samantha simmonds, welcome to the programme. the international court ofjustice is holding the first hearing today, where it will consider whether israel is committing genocide against the palestinians in gaza. south africa brought the case to the court. israel has forcefully rejected the accusation, claiming it's acting in self—defence. the hague where proceedings have just got under way. south africa are putting forward their arguments today, and israel will do theirs on friday. live now to the hague to speak to our correspondent anna holligan. welcome. just explain who the icj are and how the court makes their decisions. i are and how the court makes their decisions. ., ., , g ., decisions. i am outside the icj now, but we have — decisions. i am outside the icj now

it has undergone sub-orbital launches and research launches for about two years. in the past , as you said, according to the trend of space technology in the world, which is moving towards more satellites in one launch and cheaper launch and towards heavier satellite carriers. more than 90 satellites are put into orbit by heavy satellite launchers and usually according to the approved space program of the country. the ministry of defense and the space organization must move in this direction according to the plan and the first step in this multiple launch of the simorgh satellite was defined with 3 satellites at the same time . the country's space is being developed , and a large number of satellites in different classes are being developed in the sayiran company of the ministry of defense, whether they are medium satellites or satellites. small and nano-satellites are being developed, and in this launch, one main satellite from the space research institute of the ministry of communications and two nano -satellites from the ministry of defense's other satellites w

the power generation sub-system explains the power of the satellite communication sub-system as well as the various sub-systems of the mechanisms that are installed on the satellite. well, all of these will be tested in this 750-kilometer orbit , and we will be able to test them by regularly receiving satellite data. on the surface of the earth, we can check the performance of each of these sub-systems , sometimes we can make corrections and in fact give correction orders , and in fact, in a way, we can simply say a laboratory. it is an orbit for us, mr. salari . right now, as i am talking to you, new images of the suraya satellite launch are being broadcast for our viewers. i just wanted to know that the saraya satellite launch is definitely a puzzle, a piece of a big puzzle. what is next for you to discuss yes, yes solid fuel launchers because they are light and tactical launchers. it means that you can easily change the place of the launcher because it usually happens with mobile launchers. they are very necessary for us and for our country. it is possible that to be able to have

for that we are truly sorry. these sub-postmasters. for that we are truly sorry-— are truly sorry. basically the head of fujitsu i are truly sorry. paul patterson, basically the head of fujitsu in | basically the head of fujitsu in europe. live it to our employment correspondence sally conway outside the inquiry in central london. it is going to be a tough grilling for paul patterson. perhaps you could explain the relevance of what he is going to say in his evidence. i think we can expect a very detailed interrogation this morning. he is due to appear in just a few minutes' time. the reason why his evidence is so significant is because fujitsu played a central role in the post office scandal. 0ver played a central role in the post office scandal. over the years, over 0ffice scandal. over the years, over several years, 0ffice scandal. over the years, over severalyears, fujitsu 0ffice scandal. over the years, over several years, fujitsu employees were giving evidence in court cases that resulted in sub—postmasters going to prison. what we have been hearing at this inquiry over the la

the government is under growing pressure to exonerate hundreds of post office sub postmasters who haveeen wrongly convicted of fraud because of a faulty computer system. 700 branch managers were convicted between 1999 and 2015 after the computer system horizon mistakenly showed money was missing from their post offices. a new itv drama has put the scandal firmly back in the spotlight today the prime minister said he would strongly support the honours committee if it chose to look into revoking ucb awarded to the former post office boss oliver reynolds. —— paula venables. they said they would do all they can to right wrongs of the past. today two government ministers met with government lawyers to try to work out how they could speed up the delivery of compensation and exoneration, clearing names. and in the next 15 or 20 minutes one of those ministers will be here in parliament answering questions, all of this after a holiday season tv series. this is alan bates. 2a years ago he raised an issue with the computer system at the post office he ran in north wales. a quarter of a century on

this story is of course about the sub—postmasters who were affected.e now to tim brentnall, a former sub postmaster who had his conviction forfalse accounting overturned in 2021. could you take us through what happened to you?— could you take us through what happened to you? well, i and my arents happened to you? well, i and my parents bought — happened to you? well, i and my parents bought our— happened to you? well, i and my parents bought our local - happened to you? well, i and my parents bought our local village l parents bought our local village shopin parents bought our local village shop in 2005 and it came with a post office counter, which i run until 2010, when i was audited. then the £22,500 shortfall was discovered, so i was threatened with facing a theft charge if that wasn't repaid, so i raided my savings, sold my car, borrowed money from my parents to pay that back. almost immediately, when that money had been repaid, i was then charged with false accounting.— was then charged with false accounting. was then charged with false accountinu