hello, the program “say don’t be silent” is on air, victoria popova and svetlana smolanskaya are in theo. and today our guest is anastasia bobrova, candidate of economic sciences, demographer, economist, associate professor. good afternoon. we are involved in the formation of every state program that is aimed at the quality of life of the population, including the concept of national security, this is also a very large important document, in which we also took part as part of the working groups, the sustainable development strategy, which is now... we are reviewing all these blocks that concern our interests until 2040, of course we give our recommendations, i know how i want to tell you that sometimes an idea that even we think is ours goes a very long, long way, at first it may be rejected, perceived as something completely stupid, then they get used to it, then we see what happens. here the deputies are discussing an example, i ’ll give you a sufficient example, you know, so as not to offend anyone, but i have my leader, scientific chess specialist lyudmila petrovna, she is such a fu