there weren't many indian americans were indians who had come in at thain -- asian acas who had comen the point. and my mother said to her moth when she was young that she wanted to cure cancer. what i learned later it was that she secretly applied to uc el, and she got accepted. so she went to my grandfather and said i want and my grandfather was very progressive. el note in asian culture was that means. he fst grandchild too, i will say. [laughter] and my grandfather said, go. so she arrived in the united states by herself because she had a passion and she had a go. and she basically, her life was committed to two things, raising her two daugding breast cancer. and my grandfather was probably one of the favorite people in my life, especially during my childhood. we were penpals. so any of you of my generation, you remember thi blue envelopes with all the stripes on them, you know,ou could send back-and-forth, and you would have to open them with a letter■é opener and unfold it? my [laughter] [laughter] grandpa and i were penpals and we would go back to india, sometime between octob