much worse than what lee anderson said, and he was thrown out of the conservative party. >> that's exactly what i said about that. well tim says ricci's defence spending promise would carry more water if the amount was inflated by counting service pensions in the overall amount. yeah, because what you're saying, i've got one from andrew, so i'll do this one. andrew, so i'll do this one. andrew says starmer is calling for an election now because he's so very scared that things will change dramatically in november. and once his so—called manifesto is finally revealed, he is not home and he knows it. >> and may. good morning. may you say tories can blame reform uk all they want. the votes would have gone to independence if reform was not there. the sooner they understand there is no way we will ever vote for them again, the better. no way we will ever vote for them again, the better . well, them again, the better. well, there you go, mary. get off the fence, why don't you? >> well, listen, there's so much still to come here on gb news. and good afternoon, britain. remember, they'll be talki