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amanda carpenter, and former trump attorney tim parlatore, also with them that's a former assistant us attorney, kim wally. she is also the author of the book, pardon power, how the pardon system works, and why that may be important in these cases as well. but let's start first with cnn's jessica schneider. as we're just getting these transcripts from this testimony today, jessica, what is jumping out to you in them? >> yeah abby, i'm laura. we have all 233 pages. the verbatim of the hours of what happened inside the courtroom today. i mean, this is crucial because while we have those reporters in the court who are giving us the real-time information. this is actually it in black and white. and the first thing i want to highlight from these pages really goes to the core of this case, the issue of not just the falsification of business records, but possible campaign finance violations. so the first part of this transcript here is from the prosecutor saying, were you aware that expenditures by corporations made for the purpose of influencing an election made in coordination with or at th
amanda carpenter, and former trump attorney tim parlatore, also with them that's a former assistant us attorney, kim wally. she is also the author of the book, pardon power, how the pardon system works, and why that may be important in these cases as well. but let's start first with cnn's jessica schneider. as we're just getting these transcripts from this testimony today, jessica, what is jumping out to you in them? >> yeah abby, i'm laura. we have all 233 pages. the verbatim of the...
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and as i understand it, that juror was not seated anyway, tim parlatore. >> thank you so much. always good to have you on a deadly civil war. millions displaced and starving up next, the brutal conflict that is not getting enough of the world's attention stay with us how long have you been tracking the value of our car? >> should we sell it? we hold our low mileage is paying off. you think we should already sold the. carbonic go to carvajal and track your car's value today life after student debt is within reach, refi at sofi.com, you could save thousands and get to your goals faster. >> so get your money right you don't know, i've got to go by thanks. >> john to dream about it for years we were made to help you bookers in minutes. hi, i'm jason. i've lost 228 pounds. angola i don't ever want to go back to wearing four x seltzer or not being able to cloud stairs without taking a break so i've committed to go low for life the ups stores, not just the ship and store where the shipping store so leave the packing towards store the we understand this is more than a package store wit
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parlatore. >> tim, thank you for getting up early after a late night to help me out. trump, as i said, trump did this interview with the cnn affiliate before the contempt hearing. it didn't air until last night. how big of a problem is this one going to be for trump and also his legal team now i mean, i think that this this interview to me does seem to be a direct violation of the order as it is written and so i think it's problematic for them, especially this airs while the judges currently sitting and trying to decide the issue so the fact that it happened before the hearing, i think helps at least a little bit. i mean, if he had done that interview live yet last night after the hearing then i think the judge would have no choice. >> yeah. yeah. i am not an attorney. i'm don't pretend to be, but the reaction from the judge to trump's attorney during this gag order hearing seems to be something that you do want to avoid when you are in court. i mean, todd blanche telling the judge president trump is being very careful to comply with your order in terms of the gag or
parlatore. >> tim, thank you for getting up early after a late night to help me out. trump, as i said, trump did this interview with the cnn affiliate before the contempt hearing. it didn't air until last night. how big of a problem is this one going to be for trump and also his legal team now i mean, i think that this this interview to me does seem to be a direct violation of the order as it is written and so i think it's problematic for them, especially this airs while the judges...
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parlatore now, tim, i start with you here.nk about i always think about trial in terms of a jigsaw puzzle of sorts. what do i need from each particular witness to make this story cell to a jury to persuade them talking about david pecker. you think about this as a puzzle of sorts. what is the prosecution need to share and prove? well, pecker's in the center gets talking about a catch and kill as a bit of a pattern that it had a connection to the actual campaign. but we don't know the last two pieces yet whether trump game gave direct are not just intimations, innuendos it also was he aware there was a cook the books sort of scheme here are those two things have not been talked about fulsomely. but what's your big takeaway from pecker his testimony so far has he made me dense i mean, i think he's definitely setting the scene here. >> he definitely gives you know, kind of the background of what they were trying to do at the time and he's trying to bolster some of the things that michael cohen is going to say when he gets up late
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that seems to be growing a case when you hear this, andy, from the former trump attorney tim parlatoretestifying, listen here. >> i don't think he should. will he? obviously that is his choice. that is a decision that really comes down to the wire. if the jury disbelieves him on anything, however small, that is something they will hold against him and it will be much more likely to convict. >> sandra: final thought on that for you, andy? >> problem is the dual political and legal context here, sandra. legally i think trump would be much more likely relying on the case but it will be consequential if he does not take the stand because they will see he took the fifth. >> sandra: we are watching the doors at the supreme court in new york city we will potentially see the legal team thank you. >> john: sandra soft-on-crime se policies in blue cities across to america are democrats finally ready to reverse course? plus this. >> i never thought seeing what is going on in america and what is happening right now and it really pains me to see it. >> sandra: billionaire robert kraft and other big
that seems to be growing a case when you hear this, andy, from the former trump attorney tim parlatoretestifying, listen here. >> i don't think he should. will he? obviously that is his choice. that is a decision that really comes down to the wire. if the jury disbelieves him on anything, however small, that is something they will hold against him and it will be much more likely to convict. >> sandra: final thought on that for you, andy? >> problem is the dual political and...
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parlatore, i'm so glad to have both of you here tonight. i'm looking forward to reading your book as well. norm eyes mimic game with you here, tim. >> so >> trump is arguing that he's got this first amendment right to defend himself and say what he wants to say. it's all tori campaign speech. so does the fact that he could no longer post these comments about the judge's daughter in his mind, he'll say. but is it really fringe on those rights to say what he wants first amendment wise >> well, i think that under the case law of the state of new york, the issue the order is overbroad i mean, they they are very disfavored towards prior restraints on free speech. and it has to be narrowly tailored under new york case are only two things that would substantially prejudice the trial rights of the defendant. and so when you get into these types of things, it does go outside of the scope of what new york law does permit. and what also a federal law would permit in gag orders >> game? >> yeah >> is it fair game then? does this say whatever he wants a
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want to bring in trump's former attorney, tim parlatore, who is joining us tonight and tim, as you are watching this you know, trump obviously is someone who likes to be in command of his schedule, his environment, his ability to respond to that environment. what do you think that these next few weeks are going to be like for him? >> no. i mean, i think they're going to be torture in every sense of the word because not only is he not in control, he has to sit there quietly let other people speak on his behalf where he's so used to getting up and speaking for himself and then he also has two basically sit down, stand up whenever the judge asked him to. and this is going to happen all day every single day. so i think it is, it is something that particularly for somebody of his stature is difficult experience to go through. >> yeah, it's also quite cold in that courtroom, which even reporters who were complaining about today. but as far as the arguments that you've heard from today, given you were on the trump legal team previously, todd blanche, who is the lead counsel on this, was argui
want to bring in trump's former attorney, tim parlatore, who is joining us tonight and tim, as you are watching this you know, trump obviously is someone who likes to be in command of his schedule, his environment, his ability to respond to that environment. what do you think that these next few weeks are going to be like for him? >> no. i mean, i think they're going to be torture in every sense of the word because not only is he not in control, he has to sit there quietly let other...
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. >> let me bring it to tim parlatore. maggie haberman has a story about trump's lawyers are doing as much to please him as they are to convince the jury on what happened here. are you concerned that by failing to concede anything about his conduct they are making it a tougher case? >> oh, very much so. i mean, this is a case where all of the pecker testimony, i believe, is all true. i believe it's not criminal. i mean, the idea of paying somebody hush money, the idea of, you know, putting out false stories against rivals as amoral and retch henceable as that is, it is legal. other campaigns have done it. i mean, even, you know, during that same campaign we had, you know, the steele dossier, trump pee tape, all of that. so it's much better off as a defense attorney saying all of this stuff here, that's not in dispute. we agree with all of that but it's not a crime. the only crime is this thing right here just focused right in on these records, and really laser focus on that, and if you do that, you can make things such sim
. >> let me bring it to tim parlatore. maggie haberman has a story about trump's lawyers are doing as much to please him as they are to convince the jury on what happened here. are you concerned that by failing to concede anything about his conduct they are making it a tougher case? >> oh, very much so. i mean, this is a case where all of the pecker testimony, i believe, is all true. i believe it's not criminal. i mean, the idea of paying somebody hush money, the idea of, you know,...
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also here is tim parlatore, a former trump attorney. now look, i want to get into what's happening to the supreme court. but i have been champing at the bit to get these wide de are questions a fancy way of saying the questions i want to ask you to see that i want to choose you to be on the jury or strike you from my jury. right. so i want to go through some of these with you guys. okay. >> so first of all, >> on the impartiality that we know there's a hearing or there's an appeals court on this issue, but it gives to the question tim, i'll start with you here is one of the questions. do you currently follow donald trump on any social media site or have you done so in the past? another one. >> have you ever worked >> or volunteered for any anti-trump group or organization or do you have any strong opinions or firmly held beliefs? about former president donald trump or the fact that he is a current candidate for the presidency, that would interfere with your ability to be a fair and impartial jury. okay. these are obviously the trump lin
also here is tim parlatore, a former trump attorney. now look, i want to get into what's happening to the supreme court. but i have been champing at the bit to get these wide de are questions a fancy way of saying the questions i want to ask you to see that i want to choose you to be on the jury or strike you from my jury. right. so i want to go through some of these with you guys. okay. >> so first of all, >> on the impartiality that we know there's a hearing or there's an appeals...
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who actually negotiated the ndas with karen mcdougal and also stormy daniels, former trump attorney tim parlatore, and cnn legal analyst, former federal prosecutor, elliot williams, four republicans who your congressional advisor, reno shaw, and law enforcement reporter for the washington post devlin barrett. he's the also the author of the coauthor of the trump trials newsletter. so i want to begin with this idea of of gary farro because his testimony in many respects was why i think that people may not have anticipated they were thinking about michael cohen and stormy daniels are thinking about, of course, david pecker, maybe karen mcdougal talk to you about the decision to have this person testified, what was the weight of it well, number one, it was a friday and they did not know. i agree. i mean, that it it would not have been in the interest of the prosecutors to call a big splashy witness who they would've had an hour of testimony and then had to cut off and resume on tuesday, not even monday the number one. number two, not all witnesses. a trials and you half of a sphere know th
who actually negotiated the ndas with karen mcdougal and also stormy daniels, former trump attorney tim parlatore, and cnn legal analyst, former federal prosecutor, elliot williams, four republicans who your congressional advisor, reno shaw, and law enforcement reporter for the washington post devlin barrett. he's the also the author of the coauthor of the trump trials newsletter. so i want to begin with this idea of of gary farro because his testimony in many respects was why i think that...
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parlatore is here as well. and caitlin, let me start with you. i want to read an interesting line from michael cohen's banker, gary pharaoh. this is what gary farro testifying. every time michael cohen's spoke to me, he gave a sense of urgency and this was one of those times breakdown the significance of the bankers testimony today that is set to continue. we're told next week yeah, when michael cohen says that to gary farro as he's testifying, it's a moment where michael cohen wants to set up an account with this private bank in 2016 where gary farro works. >> this is the bank through which the payment ultimately is going to be set up to be paid to stormy daniels from michael cohen, $130,000 to keep her story quiet. >> and what he's doing is piecing in new parts of the puzzle. the prosecutors want to be able to show the jury every step of the money and the effort toward paying off stormy daniels from donald trump's sphere. >> gary pharaoh is one of the people that can do that both with his testimony and with h
parlatore is here as well. and caitlin, let me start with you. i want to read an interesting line from michael cohen's banker, gary pharaoh. this is what gary farro testifying. every time michael cohen's spoke to me, he gave a sense of urgency and this was one of those times breakdown the significance of the bankers testimony today that is set to continue. we're told next week yeah, when michael cohen says that to gary farro as he's testifying, it's a moment where michael cohen wants to set up...
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and tim parlatore told me last hour that he thinks the only thing helping trump with this one, this re-offending is maybe that trump did the interview before he sat before the judge yesterday. do you agree that's a good job by tim, i guess come up with something but it was a violation of the gag order before the day started and after the hearing as well i mean, this whole defense that we heard from todd blanche of well, he doesn't think that the gag orders fair or he's just defending himself. >> that's fine. but it's still an order of the court. you don't get to violate it because well, i thought it was necessary to violate it or well, i felt the need to violate it. none of that's going to fly to me, so i think tim's right, i guess that's the best argument donald trump could have about why it was not as flagrant, maybe as it would have been if he had done it after the hearing, but either way, i think this will probably be added to the list of violations. >> and you mentioned that you don't think that the judge is going to tell donald trump now has to be putting customary behind bars because of t
and tim parlatore told me last hour that he thinks the only thing helping trump with this one, this re-offending is maybe that trump did the interview before he sat before the judge yesterday. do you agree that's a good job by tim, i guess come up with something but it was a violation of the gag order before the day started and after the hearing as well i mean, this whole defense that we heard from todd blanche of well, he doesn't think that the gag orders fair or he's just defending himself....
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we have jid rosie here, former federal prosecutor, former trump attorney tim parlatore, allele.s, a former deputy assistant attorney general, and marcus childress farmer, january 6, investigative counsel. everyone, thanks for being here. so first of all trump keeps complaining about this courthouse. is really that gold. i've been i've tried several cases in that courthouse it was hard when i was there, but i think they've done some renovations so i guess the answer is no. >> it is a dingy 19, i think 60s or 70s style bonfire of the vanities might be the best way to describe the courthouse. that probably hasn't undergone the kind of renovations that you think it's part of the charm, elliott, i know you also have some details from this day in the courthouse what did we learn? so a day of trial looks like this. >> it's i mean, there's actually quite a lot more than the last know. it doesn't a lot more than the last couple of days. and its, and its done since it today, wasn't adept hey of major bombshell testimony, but there were some very interesting both human moments because this
we have jid rosie here, former federal prosecutor, former trump attorney tim parlatore, allele.s, a former deputy assistant attorney general, and marcus childress farmer, january 6, investigative counsel. everyone, thanks for being here. so first of all trump keeps complaining about this courthouse. is really that gold. i've been i've tried several cases in that courthouse it was hard when i was there, but i think they've done some renovations so i guess the answer is no. >> it is a dingy...
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as you know, from your conversations with tim parlatore& jim trusty, they're not going to lose nice sleepover. borse is faith tonight. and know he's been with trump a lot. >> everybody was going down for the mar-a-lago indictment, appearances, emmys he's of all these people still so in his inner circle, right? >> we're very much in his inner circle. and very protective of the former president and protective to the point that giuliani reached when he arguably sold his soul to protect the president under circumstances that were improper. >> all right. all stay with me. i do want to bring in rusty bowers central to this entire indictment. rusty is the former republican speaker of the house of representatives in arizona famously, rusty, you testified before the january 6 committee about how trump and giuliani pressure you to overturn the 2020 election results in arizona. i know you and i've had a chance to speak many times, but now here we are. rusty. we've got 58 page indictment in your state what's your reaction from what you know so far? >> well, from what i know is what you just told me if th
as you know, from your conversations with tim parlatore& jim trusty, they're not going to lose nice sleepover. borse is faith tonight. and know he's been with trump a lot. >> everybody was going down for the mar-a-lago indictment, appearances, emmys he's of all these people still so in his inner circle, right? >> we're very much in his inner circle. and very protective of the former president and protective to the point that giuliani reached when he arguably sold his soul to...
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tim parlatore starts getting antsy because he's afraid donald trump's not going to pay him back. the prosecutor say the jury is going to hear the recording of the call between cohen and trump about this mcdougal payment in september remember 2016. so they're presenting they're basically giving a preview of the evidence. they're going to say sure. and here, i mean, the flip side of the whole payment in cash piece is it shows that he may make suggestions. he did that with us that the lawyer said, no, we're not going to do that. we're going to do it a different way and he and ultimately relies upon what his lawyers yeah. say. if he says paid in cash and this is where we're going to do it this different way. but ultimately, all of that is atmospherics from beforehand, but it doesn't really have anything to do with why were those specific entries made into the books of the trump organization and the as elie said before, catch shankill is legal it's something that it's not even a campaign contribution under citizens united, write something is totally legal so whether you put these entr
tim parlatore starts getting antsy because he's afraid donald trump's not going to pay him back. the prosecutor say the jury is going to hear the recording of the call between cohen and trump about this mcdougal payment in september remember 2016. so they're presenting they're basically giving a preview of the evidence. they're going to say sure. and here, i mean, the flip side of the whole payment in cash piece is it shows that he may make suggestions. he did that with us that the lawyer said,...
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parlatore. and tim really appreciate your time so you have obviously worked with him. you've been in situations in front of these judges. what do you make of the reporting here that paula has been breaking, that trump has been present it says he's gonna be present every single one of the sides and bars that happens in the courtroom. we haven't seen him do that before, so what do you think it says that he's going to do that and as an attorney how does that make you feel >> well it's not something that i usually like for clients to do. you know, if if the client comes up with you at every single sidebar, whether it's two questions the juror during the jury selection, or whether it's to discuss some point of law with the judge i think that it is something that can be potentially disruptive, potentially have the judge in an off the record setting not be quite as open with the attorneys. and so it's not something that i would normally prefer for a client to do, but it is something i've seen clients d
parlatore. and tim really appreciate your time so you have obviously worked with him. you've been in situations in front of these judges. what do you make of the reporting here that paula has been breaking, that trump has been present it says he's gonna be present every single one of the sides and bars that happens in the courtroom. we haven't seen him do that before, so what do you think it says that he's going to do that and as an attorney how does that make you feel >> well it's not...
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tim parlatore, the problem that the defense has with this is all of this conduct is grotesque it's a moral, it's not something you can defend. but the issue that they have to really confront us, how did they present that in front of the jury? >> because all of the stuff we're talking about is legal, right it's none of this is a crime. >> well, except unless i mean, the argument, karen, you correct me if i'm wrong with the argument, is that david doing this was a campaign contribution exactly. >> that it's an in-kind campaign contribution if you're paying for, if it's part of the campaign as laura was saying, this is the whole strategy, the timing, it's about the look david says michael cohen would look at the pdfs, comment on them. so they would add content based on what michael cohen was suggesting and there's all sorts of limits on how much anybody individually can contribute to a campaign and corporations can contribute to a campaign if at all. >> so they're bye, bye hang these large sums of money that's considered a donation. >> although ten, we should note, said he does not reca
tim parlatore, the problem that the defense has with this is all of this conduct is grotesque it's a moral, it's not something you can defend. but the issue that they have to really confront us, how did they present that in front of the jury? >> because all of the stuff we're talking about is legal, right it's none of this is a crime. >> well, except unless i mean, the argument, karen, you correct me if i'm wrong with the argument, is that david doing this was a campaign...