personnel, including the fire chief chief covington, the department of violence prevention chief chief tolley joshi, including myself and justin johnson, who is the city administrator. it is equally as important to get a good chief who also can work in collaboration on a team so that we can move forward in a way are being data driven and that we can actually curb crime in a not just in a surface level way, but in a very impactful way. and so i'm excited for the possibilities of the future for the city of oakland. >> okay. great. so it sounds like a pretty confident you'll come out with a final from this list of finalists. >> i know you're pushing that agenda, but you're going to have to weigh not will making announcement. whether i throw back the list or whether i pick somebody off that list. all right. all right. so what kind of timeline are you looking at now to get a new chief into office? you know, again, i'm going moving expeditiously. but at the same time, i'm going to take my due diligence to ensure, you know, any checks and balances are implemented, making sure that this person is goi