jat, and it is, well, the truth that europe was much more, ethnically mixed, well, for example, even the ethnic composition of poland after the years of 1945, 1946, there, it changed very much , than what was in the 30s, this is a fact, and this applies to many very nations, and this is what we accept, that what happened in volyn, it was ethnic cleaning where a lot of poles really died, and to a lesser extent ukrainians, and it was ethnic cleansing, it is true, and i think we are ready to admit it and ask for forgiveness for it, but was it genocide, or is it a good wording, and the main fireplace stumbling block, it seems to me, remains, it is a demand from poland, from the poles, in principle understood by us, to somehow give up. leadership of the ukrainian insurgent army, and now during this war, we, i remember your conversation, our conversation with you about 10 years ago in kyiv on the radio, when you said that you you can't honor bandera because he was a murderer and so he participated in the assassination, well no, don't, don't, don't attribute to me that what i couldn't say b