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former trump lawyer and fixer michael cohen. trump attorney todd blanche confronting cohen with his history of lies, peppering him with questions designed to expose potential holes in his credibility, painting him as a disgruntled former employee bent on revenge. cohen is a key witness against the former president, who has testified that mr. trump directed him to buy the silence of adult film actress stormy daniels about an alleged affair and was in on a scheme to disguise the payments as legal expenses. mr. trump has denied an affair and pleaded not guilty to charges of falsifying business records. under cross-examination, cohen pressed about his relationship with mr. trump. asked if he was obsessed with donald trump, cohen responding "i admired him." laura jarrett on one of the most dramatic days in the trial so far. >> reporter: tonight trump's defense team tearing into the prosecution's star witness, suggesting mr. trump's self-described fixer turned fierce trump critic michael cohen is out for revenge on his former boss. "d
former trump lawyer and fixer michael cohen. trump attorney todd blanche confronting cohen with his history of lies, peppering him with questions designed to expose potential holes in his credibility, painting him as a disgruntled former employee bent on revenge. cohen is a key witness against the former president, who has testified that mr. trump directed him to buy the silence of adult film actress stormy daniels about an alleged affair and was in on a scheme to disguise the payments as legal...
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trump promised he would then pay cohen back. here's our senior investigative correspondent aaron katersky leading us off from the courthouse tonight. >> do you have any messages for donald trump today? >> reporter: he once said he'd take a bullet for donald trump. but today, michael cohen heading to court to testify against his old boss as the prosecution's star witness. >> he's got no evidence and i'm innocent. >> reporter: inside, the two men who spent a decade attached at the hip didn't even look at each other. cohen telling the jury that as the 2016 campaign got under way, trump warned him, "be prepared. there's going to be a lot of women coming forward." the first, former "playboy" model karen mcdougal. when cohen informed trump that mcdougal was shopping her story of their alleged affair, he says trump responded, "she's really beautiful. make sure it doesn't get released." trump has denied the affair, but cohen testified that at trump's direction, "the national enquirer" bought mcdougal's story. the jury hearing this secre
trump promised he would then pay cohen back. here's our senior investigative correspondent aaron katersky leading us off from the courthouse tonight. >> do you have any messages for donald trump today? >> reporter: he once said he'd take a bullet for donald trump. but today, michael cohen heading to court to testify against his old boss as the prosecution's star witness. >> he's got no evidence and i'm innocent. >> reporter: inside, the two men who spent a decade...
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cohen says of trump. cohen testifies that trump was mad at him during this period. >> what she went on to lie about later, he was asked about an air force one if he knew about this and he said he did not. catherine lucy, then at the associated press now with the wall street journal, asked the president directly that on worst one and he did not not not like a few. >> sure. not at this moment, but this week's lab, a couple of years later, he said he didn't know about it at this moment when the story breaks is story breaks into 2017 or 2000 know the stormy daniels story breaks. when the karen mcdougal is right before the election. >> for sure. but in 2017, he was asked about to knowing about the payment and he said he did know about it. you'll have to ask michael cohen it is what the present this is why donald trump was mad at them according to michael cohen, trump's says, i thought you had this under control. i thought you took care of this trump briefly looked up at cohen on the witness stand, so he is doi
cohen says of trump. cohen testifies that trump was mad at him during this period. >> what she went on to lie about later, he was asked about an air force one if he knew about this and he said he did not. catherine lucy, then at the associated press now with the wall street journal, asked the president directly that on worst one and he did not not not like a few. >> sure. not at this moment, but this week's lab, a couple of years later, he said he didn't know about it at this moment...
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trump lawyer todd blanche resumed his mission to paint cohen as a serial liar bent on revenge. even getting cohen to admit he had stolen tens of thousands of dollars from the trump organization. and then late today the defense starting its case, putting former cohen legal adviser robert costello on the stand, who told the jury cohen had lied about what mr. trump knew about the reimbursement of hush money payments. but costello's behavior irking judge juan merchan, who briefly paused testimony to admonish the witness. laura jarrett with more on today's legal fireworks. >> reporter: tonight former president trump's defense team launching a fiery start to its case, taking direct aim at the credibility of star prosecution witness michael cohen, calling robert costello, a former federal prosecutor and attorney for rudy giuliani, who advised cohen before a falling out. costello describing cohen as, quote, manic at a 2018 meeting after cohen's home and office were raided by the fbi. while cohen is now implicating mr. trump in an alleged crime, costello testifying cohen told him back t
trump lawyer todd blanche resumed his mission to paint cohen as a serial liar bent on revenge. even getting cohen to admit he had stolen tens of thousands of dollars from the trump organization. and then late today the defense starting its case, putting former cohen legal adviser robert costello on the stand, who told the jury cohen had lied about what mr. trump knew about the reimbursement of hush money payments. but costello's behavior irking judge juan merchan, who briefly paused testimony...
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trump. cohen appearing blindsided. blanche grilling him, "that was a lie, you did not talk to president trump. you talked to keith schiller. you can admit it." cohen responding, "no, sir, i don't know that it's accurate." cohen adding "i also believe i spoke to mr. trump about the stormy daniels matter. blanche shooting back, "we are not asking what you believe. this jury does not want to hear what you think happened." cohen's credibility key to the state's case as he is the only one who has testified the former president had advanced knowledge of the plan to pay off daniels to protect his campaign and then signed off on a scheme to pay cohen back, allegedly falsifying business records to disguise his reimbursements. mr. trump has pleaded not guilty as his defense attorneys have argued nothing was falsified, and once again challenging prosecutors today that the former president only cared about shielding his campaign from daniels' damaging story. blanche pushing cohen about mr. trump's reaction the first time the forme
trump. cohen appearing blindsided. blanche grilling him, "that was a lie, you did not talk to president trump. you talked to keith schiller. you can admit it." cohen responding, "no, sir, i don't know that it's accurate." cohen adding "i also believe i spoke to mr. trump about the stormy daniels matter. blanche shooting back, "we are not asking what you believe. this jury does not want to hear what you think happened." cohen's credibility key to the state's...
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after trump was elected, cohen was not given a job in washington donald trump always kept michael cohen at a certain distance and code became more and more resentful of the fact that he was being kept at arm's length distance by donald trump. the relationship ruptured after cohen's role facilitating the hush money payments to stormy daniel's became public cohen went to jail, was disbarred and bitterly testified against prompting congress. >> he is a racist he is a conman and he's achieved is cohen really a different man now from those days as trump's bullying fixer this new michael cohen seems a quieter, more subdued, chastened. he does seem to be a feed. it hits. he's he's lost stature, he's lost his connection to trump as for the future dynamic between the two men, trump biographer marc fisher says it's possible that trump might try to retaliate somehow for cohen's testimony. >> but fisher says that trump is also known for bringing people who go astray back into his orbit. he says that's a possibility with michael cohen. albeit a slim one. well, i suspect it's a very slim one, indeed,
after trump was elected, cohen was not given a job in washington donald trump always kept michael cohen at a certain distance and code became more and more resentful of the fact that he was being kept at arm's length distance by donald trump. the relationship ruptured after cohen's role facilitating the hush money payments to stormy daniel's became public cohen went to jail, was disbarred and bitterly testified against prompting congress. >> he is a racist he is a conman and he's achieved...
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daniels m and cohen testifying that in 2018, when cohen himself was the target of an fbi raid, trump, who was president then, told cohen, "don't worry, i'm the president of the united states. stay tough, you're going to be okay." it was the last time they spoke. here's our senior invest dayive correspondent aaron katersky leading us off from the courthouse tonight. >> reporter: on the witness stand today, in vivid detail, donald trump's former fixer michael cohen describing the unraveling of their relationship after the hush money deal with stormy daniels and trump's rise to the white house. on the stand cohen was clear, trump told him to pay off the porn star so it “would not affect mr. trump's chances” in the 2016 election. cohen said trump discussed plans to reimburse him during a meeting in the oval office. jurors seeing this photograph and these checks that allegedly covered part of the reimbursement. trump is charged with illegally falsified business documents to make it all look like legal expenses. cohen admitted that even after the election, he kept lying again and again
daniels m and cohen testifying that in 2018, when cohen himself was the target of an fbi raid, trump, who was president then, told cohen, "don't worry, i'm the president of the united states. stay tough, you're going to be okay." it was the last time they spoke. here's our senior invest dayive correspondent aaron katersky leading us off from the courthouse tonight. >> reporter: on the witness stand today, in vivid detail, donald trump's former fixer michael cohen describing the...
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from the outset, michael cohen knew who donald trump was and donald trump knew who michael cohen was. they were in cahoots together from the beginning. this dastardly transactional relationship. it's funny to hear michael cohen say how disappointed and how her day was because it was always about credit for michael cohen. >> the question is, who is michael cohen going to be tomorrow on cross-examination? >> if the civil fraud case is any guide, he will be more contentious. he won't be the same cool and collected, we have been through this before. i expect he will try to fight back, if there is some suggestion that he is revamping his story. one of the marks of this, and it's an interesting facet of this is hope hicks kind of boxed in trump's defense to a degree when she said essentially that cohen was too selfish to follow trump's script for what this was. that cohen was freelancing, doing this on his own and protecting his boss . the entire defense of the case thrives on the idea cohen selflessness pre-2018 anyway that even hope hicks, a trump loyalist, said is inconsistent with the e
from the outset, michael cohen knew who donald trump was and donald trump knew who michael cohen was. they were in cahoots together from the beginning. this dastardly transactional relationship. it's funny to hear michael cohen say how disappointed and how her day was because it was always about credit for michael cohen. >> the question is, who is michael cohen going to be tomorrow on cross-examination? >> if the civil fraud case is any guide, he will be more contentious. he won't...
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"don't worry, i'm the president of united states," cohen said trump told him. it was the last time they spoke. after making his statement, speaker johnson refused to take questions, but i did ask him, would he stand with trump even if trump is convicted? he rushed off and ducked into his motorcade, underscoring how many republicans are coming here to show solidarity with trump, but few want to talk too much
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trump and michael cohen, guys. >> thanks so much. charles, wasting absolutely no time saying this was the guy who donald trump went to, they had that kind of relationship. i'm going to read a couple more back and forths between the prosecutor and michael cohen. were you at any time part of the special counsel's office? no, ma'am. why not? it was not part of the discussion when i joined trump org. so just for mr. trump? just mr. trump. and then later, during the time you worked there for mr. trump, how often would you say you met with him or spoke to him? every single day, multiple times a day. this is in the first couple of minutes of testimony. >> this is exactly what i expected to see and i expect that we're going to see more of this. they are going to essentially tell a story that in many respects serves as a character arc almost to get to the point where the relationship being what it is, where michael cohen is completely invested, he is donald trump's right-hand man. you have to paint that picture so that you understand how clos
trump and michael cohen, guys. >> thanks so much. charles, wasting absolutely no time saying this was the guy who donald trump went to, they had that kind of relationship. i'm going to read a couple more back and forths between the prosecutor and michael cohen. were you at any time part of the special counsel's office? no, ma'am. why not? it was not part of the discussion when i joined trump org. so just for mr. trump? just mr. trump. and then later, during the time you worked there for...
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trump's sign-off, cohen told the jury, testifying mr. trump was furious in 2016 when he learned stormy daniels was still trying to sell her story of sex with the former president, telling cohen, "i thought you had this under control." cohen explaining he'd managed to suppress daniels' story years before but it resurfaced on the heels of the "access hollywood" tape and cohen feared if daniels went public it would be, quote, catastrophic for the campaign, saying mr. trump told him "just take care of it. this is a disaster. women are going to hate me. guys may think this is cool but this is going to be a disaster for the campaign." cohen said mr. trump told him he met daniels at a golf tournament, describing her as a beautiful woman. mr. trump has denied he had sex with daniels and pleaded not guilty to charges of illegally disguising his reimbursement checks to cohen as legal expenses on his internal books and records. the defense team arguing there was no crime, that cohen was his personal attorney at the time, handling a personal matter
trump's sign-off, cohen told the jury, testifying mr. trump was furious in 2016 when he learned stormy daniels was still trying to sell her story of sex with the former president, telling cohen, "i thought you had this under control." cohen explaining he'd managed to suppress daniels' story years before but it resurfaced on the heels of the "access hollywood" tape and cohen feared if daniels went public it would be, quote, catastrophic for the campaign, saying mr. trump told...
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trump, but not placing a gag order on cohen. mr. trump remains under one barring him from attacking witnesses and the jury. >> it's a disgrace. it's not a case. there's no crime. there is no crime, and they've failed to show a crime. >> reporter: cohen, a critical witness for the prosecution, as the jury has now read his text messages, heard his voice, and seen evidence that he paid stormy daniels $130,000 just days before the 2016 election so she couldn't derail the campaign. the defense says her story of sex with mr. trump was false, a shakedown for money brokered by cohen, making his testimony and credibility on the stand essential. mr. trump has pleaded not guilty to the charges of illegally disguising his reimbursement checks to cohen, his former attorney, as, quote, legal expenses, to cover his tracks. the face-off between the two likely to be one of the most dramatic of the trial. cohen comes with baggage including previous convictions for campaign finance violations and lying under oath. meanwhile, today the jury hearing mor
trump, but not placing a gag order on cohen. mr. trump remains under one barring him from attacking witnesses and the jury. >> it's a disgrace. it's not a case. there's no crime. there is no crime, and they've failed to show a crime. >> reporter: cohen, a critical witness for the prosecution, as the jury has now read his text messages, heard his voice, and seen evidence that he paid stormy daniels $130,000 just days before the 2016 election so she couldn't derail the campaign. the...
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cohen set the scene, the 26 teen election was just weeks away and according to cohen's testimony, trump said it's a total disaster. women are going to hate me. as trump continued to deny all the allegations, cohen detailed how he made the 130,000 payment to daniels to keep her quiet which he described in 2019. >> he asked me to pay off an adult film star with whom he had an affair and to lie about it to his wife, which i did. >> before finalizing the $130,000 payment to daniels, cohen said he called trump to tell him because everything required mr. trump's signoff. on top of that i wanted the money back. cohen so far has been effective for the prosecution, he is the y placed donald trump directly in these discussions about payoffs to stormy daniels. >> cohen pointed to a trump tower meeting where he and former chief financial officer allen weisselberg showed a trump at this document with cohen's name by the top and $130,000 scribbled at the bottom. him it was there, cohen testified, that trump approved the plan to pay him in monthly installments. jurors also heard a trump and a cohen al
cohen set the scene, the 26 teen election was just weeks away and according to cohen's testimony, trump said it's a total disaster. women are going to hate me. as trump continued to deny all the allegations, cohen detailed how he made the 130,000 payment to daniels to keep her quiet which he described in 2019. >> he asked me to pay off an adult film star with whom he had an affair and to lie about it to his wife, which i did. >> before finalizing the $130,000 payment to daniels,...
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cohen says he and trump about it. and cohen testifies that trump says, how long do you think i will be on the market for not long you said stephanie a few weeks ago when you and i were talking that there were certain moments of this trial that may be very significant for trump. trump's life, for his marriage was this one of them yeah, absolutely. >> look, i think there are two things can be true at the same time and could melania trump be angry right now about all of this being out there at about their personal lives. and it's humiliating absolutely. on a personal level. >> but yes, she knew who she married. and i think that that comment to michael cohen ring absolutely true she's happy, she's got a very good life. she's not going anywhere. that's been proven. and so i absolutely believe you said something like that to michael cohen ryan on that point though the point and we know this is going to happen across, but there are even trying to bring it up under direct because they want cohen a chance to respond to it, and
cohen says he and trump about it. and cohen testifies that trump says, how long do you think i will be on the market for not long you said stephanie a few weeks ago when you and i were talking that there were certain moments of this trial that may be very significant for trump. trump's life, for his marriage was this one of them yeah, absolutely. >> look, i think there are two things can be true at the same time and could melania trump be angry right now about all of this being out there...
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reading the text of support from trump to cohen. hoffinger, what understanding did you have about that statement? again, referring to this tweet that was put out about michael cohen saying most people would flip. i don't think cohen would. cohen said, mr. trump did not want me to cooperate with the government or certainly not provide information or flip. hoffinger, if you had cooperated at that time, what would you have told them? then, objection, morning recess. the objections are flying now, danny. >> yeah, that one was speculative. a hypothetical. what would you have told them? finally, an objection. it makes sense. just a bit of in the courtroom color. i was in the courtroom on friday. maggie haberman has been name checked more than a few times in this case. >> she's been in the court, too. >> that's the end of the story. >> in the courtroom today. >> she was there friday, too. when she's name checked, it's not flattering. it's usually trump attacking her in some form of another. since the courtroom is full of a bunch of journal
reading the text of support from trump to cohen. hoffinger, what understanding did you have about that statement? again, referring to this tweet that was put out about michael cohen saying most people would flip. i don't think cohen would. cohen said, mr. trump did not want me to cooperate with the government or certainly not provide information or flip. hoffinger, if you had cooperated at that time, what would you have told them? then, objection, morning recess. the objections are flying now,...
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trump, who cohen without emotion now refers to as mr. trump. now the importance of cohen's testimony and all of this cannot be overstated. this is what the case is all about. >> he is the only person who can testify hi about what is at the heart of the case. >> and that is trump's direct involvement in the alleged conspiracy to falsify the business records in order to pay stormy daniels, not whether the affair happened. none of that falsifying the business records. now the testimony was intense today, cohen rarely looked in the direction of trump. he said the former president than an instructed him to pay daniels $130,000, quote, just do it. he recalled trump saying and just before cohen went to the bank on october 26, he testified that he called trump again. he said, quote, i wanted to ensure that once again, he approved what i was doing because i require approval from him on all of this everything required, mr. trump sign off on top of that, i wanted the money back and they pointed to crucial documents showing the call log saying that trump a
trump, who cohen without emotion now refers to as mr. trump. now the importance of cohen's testimony and all of this cannot be overstated. this is what the case is all about. >> he is the only person who can testify hi about what is at the heart of the case. >> and that is trump's direct involvement in the alleged conspiracy to falsify the business records in order to pay stormy daniels, not whether the affair happened. none of that falsifying the business records. now the testimony...
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today, the judge cracked down on cohen, telling him he needed to stop taunting donald trump after cohen wore a shirt on social media depicting the former president behind bars. it comes after a week of dizzying testimony sex and innuendo from adult film star for stormy daniels. we get more now from cbs's robert costa. >> reporter: former present donald trump closed a day in court. and alleged sexual encounter he denies. >> everything you have been watching has nothing to do with the case. >> reporter: daniels took a swipe at trump on time, riding real men respond to testimony by being sworn in and taking the stand in court. oh, wait, never mind. prosecutors say daniels was a key witness. she accepted a $130,000 payment from trump's former attorney michael cohen before the 2016 election, in exchange for keeping quiet about her story appeared on the stand friday, former white house aide madeleine westerhout testified about a 2017 oval office meeting, where prosecutors say trump and cohen discuss those payments. >> are you ready to testify? >> yes. >> reporter: as the prosecution's star wi
today, the judge cracked down on cohen, telling him he needed to stop taunting donald trump after cohen wore a shirt on social media depicting the former president behind bars. it comes after a week of dizzying testimony sex and innuendo from adult film star for stormy daniels. we get more now from cbs's robert costa. >> reporter: former present donald trump closed a day in court. and alleged sexual encounter he denies. >> everything you have been watching has nothing to do with the...
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cohen, correct. you supposedly go talk to trump. did you have other conversations with weisselberg about trump. the conversations were about the retainer agreement and the fact that there would not be one. cohen, yes, sir. if you had a retainer agreement, it would be between you and your client. cohen, correct, it would have been with the trump. weisselberg, his sons, cohen, correct. your private relationship with the trust was going to be with you and president trump. cohen, yes. but the trust controlled his cash flow. i would suspect somewhere down the line maybe that's where it would come from. blanche says, your retainer agreement would have been between you and president trump. correct. >> how effective is this to go into michael cohen's motives and motivations? >> that's important. while michael cohen wants to say he's the key witness, the crucial witness. the prosecution is trying to say he's not the key witness. regardless, the defense needs to go at his credibility. remember, michael cohen is the only one who provides the d
cohen, correct. you supposedly go talk to trump. did you have other conversations with weisselberg about trump. the conversations were about the retainer agreement and the fact that there would not be one. cohen, yes, sir. if you had a retainer agreement, it would be between you and your client. cohen, correct, it would have been with the trump. weisselberg, his sons, cohen, correct. your private relationship with the trust was going to be with you and president trump. cohen, yes. but the trust...
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trump? cohen said trump said wow, that's great. he was happy. this is circumstantial evidence about another hush money payment but it's not the heart of the case here. it's not what donald trump is accused of wrong doing here. it's not michael cohen paying his own money to keep daniels quiet. it's not donald trump paying repaying cohen and calling it legal services when it was not. danny was saying the defense might have an argument that this is, they're going too far into these circumstances. but don't they need to set this up given that trump doesn't have a paper trail? don't they need to set the behavior up time and time again to tie donald trump to this even though there isn't a paper trail? >> exactly. what they say in new york, this was necessary background information and this is interwove with the crime. that's why the judge allowed this evidence to come in because it leads to daniels. >> and it shows the micro management. i want to bring in andrew weissman, former senior member of the mueller probe and who has been in the court's overfl
trump? cohen said trump said wow, that's great. he was happy. this is circumstantial evidence about another hush money payment but it's not the heart of the case here. it's not what donald trump is accused of wrong doing here. it's not michael cohen paying his own money to keep daniels quiet. it's not donald trump paying repaying cohen and calling it legal services when it was not. danny was saying the defense might have an argument that this is, they're going too far into these circumstances....
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trump concerned about that? cohen, yes. hoffinger, direct attention to september of 2016, did you record a convo with trump regarding purchasing karen mcdougal life rights. >> this is the only one i taped. >> why did you tape this one? so i could show it to david pecker. that way he could hear the conversation that he was going to be paying him back and i also wanted him to remain loyal to donald trump. >> this is key. this is critical. this shows that paper trail, and it also shows if you think about it, the pattern that cohen actually experienced when he wasn't getting paid back or he didn't receive the compensation necessary to pay stormy daniels. so i think what the prosecution is kind of doing is laying out this mirror to show this pattern because the pattern also links back to trump as well. is there an issue, though, if cohen's right now saying this was the one conversation i recorded. i think as a juror -- >> was mr. trump aware, no, ma'am. mr. trump wasn't aware. i'm left to question, why was this the only one he r
trump concerned about that? cohen, yes. hoffinger, direct attention to september of 2016, did you record a convo with trump regarding purchasing karen mcdougal life rights. >> this is the only one i taped. >> why did you tape this one? so i could show it to david pecker. that way he could hear the conversation that he was going to be paying him back and i also wanted him to remain loyal to donald trump. >> this is key. this is critical. this shows that paper trail, and it also...
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one was in michael cohen brought up melania trump and trump had made a face and in that context, cohen was talking about melania trump and what her reaction would have been had she learned about the stormy daniels story. just as trump was negotiating, according to michael cohen, to try to bury it. the other time was toward the end of the testimony, trump would pass notes to his lawyers when michael cohen was getting some to some of the details of the his conversations with trump about his bonus. and when michael cohen was talking about his bonus, he said that he was angry, even for myself, unusually angry about having his bonus cut by two-thirds. trump had kind of laughed to himself and smiled and reacted to that. clearly suggesting he had some kind of memory of that. but throughout, michael cohen himself was very measured even when talking about some of these conversations, he spoke slowly. he was very deliberate in the words that he chose. one is answering these questions and we did not see any kind of reaction from him. more him losing any cool while he was on the stand, jake, cnn's
one was in michael cohen brought up melania trump and trump had made a face and in that context, cohen was talking about melania trump and what her reaction would have been had she learned about the stormy daniels story. just as trump was negotiating, according to michael cohen, to try to bury it. the other time was toward the end of the testimony, trump would pass notes to his lawyers when michael cohen was getting some to some of the details of the his conversations with trump about his...
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michael cohen said trump _ is another point... michael cohen said trump didn't _ is another point... michael cohen said trump didn't want _ is another point... michael cohen said trump didn't want to - is another point... michael cohen said trump didn't want to paper | said trump didn't want to paper trail, does not point to the fact the prosecution doesn't have the paper trail?— paper trail? that is right, that is an explanation _ paper trail? that is right, that is an explanation why _ paper trail? that is right, that is an explanation why there - paper trail? that is right, that is an explanation why there is - paper trail? that is right, that is an explanation why there is not| paper trail? that is right, that is| an explanation why there is not a paper trail but it is coming out of the words of michael cohen, a convicted lion fraudster so that is an element the defence could attack but this is a very theoretical, academic discussion and i will say i have tried a lot of cases in my career as a prosecutor and defence attorney
michael cohen said trump _ is another point... michael cohen said trump didn't _ is another point... michael cohen said trump didn't want _ is another point... michael cohen said trump didn't want to - is another point... michael cohen said trump didn't want to paper | said trump didn't want to paper trail, does not point to the fact the prosecution doesn't have the paper trail?— paper trail? that is right, that is an explanation _ paper trail? that is right, that is an explanation why _...
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he asks cohen, he was obsessed with trump. cohen replied, i don't know if i would characterize the word obsessed. i admired him tremendously. cohen-addad that at that time, i was knee deep into the cult of donald trump. blanche suggested cohen changed his view on trump to help his own legal problems. >> he needs to be held accountable earlier tuesday during the end of direct examination prosecutors zeroed in on the repayments at the crux of the criminal charges against trump. this is the old days while you're allowed to call a legal expensive legal expenses cohen testified it began with a 2017 oval office meeting with trump where he said they discussed how he would be reimbursed for the $130,000 he paid out-of-pocket to stormy daniels despite cohen saying he did minimal work for trump in 2017, going month by month, he outline sending made-up invoices and receiving checks totaling $420,000, which he said included the hush money reimbursement, other fees, and a bonus. >> prosecutors showed one of the $35,000 checks signed by tru
he asks cohen, he was obsessed with trump. cohen replied, i don't know if i would characterize the word obsessed. i admired him tremendously. cohen-addad that at that time, i was knee deep into the cult of donald trump. blanche suggested cohen changed his view on trump to help his own legal problems. >> he needs to be held accountable earlier tuesday during the end of direct examination prosecutors zeroed in on the repayments at the crux of the criminal charges against trump. this is the...
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from the outset, michael cohen knew donald trump was and donald trump knew who michael cohen was. they were in's from the beginning in this really dastardly transactional relationship. it is funny to hear michael cohen say today how disappointed he was and how hurt he was because it was always about credit for michael cohen. >> adam, the question is, who is michael cohen going to be tomorrow one cross-examination ? >> if the civil fraud case is any guide, you will be a lot more contentious, he's not going to be the same cool, collected. just to set expectations as to what we've been through this rodeo before. i expect he's going to try to fight back, if there is some suggestion that he is revamping his story. and, one of the marks of this, and this is a very interesting facet of this, is that hope hicks kind of boxed in trump's defense, to a degree, when she said that, essentially that michael cohen was too selfish to really, to follow trump's script for what this was that michael cohen was freelancing, that he was doing this on his own, he was protecting his boss, that the entire
from the outset, michael cohen knew donald trump was and donald trump knew who michael cohen was. they were in's from the beginning in this really dastardly transactional relationship. it is funny to hear michael cohen say today how disappointed he was and how hurt he was because it was always about credit for michael cohen. >> adam, the question is, who is michael cohen going to be tomorrow one cross-examination ? >> if the civil fraud case is any guide, you will be a lot more...
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trump. cohen says no. hoffinger said why not, because everything required mr. trump sign off. in addition to that, i wanted the money back. that's key, guys, would you have done this without sign off from trump. cohen testifies no. he says i always went to donald trump to make sure these things were cool. and in an admission that any of us can understand, i wanted the money back, michael cohen says. >> we have also had a lot of testimony that donald trump was a micro manager who signed checks to reimburse cohen for the hush money payments. he knew where every penny was spent. again, does it define credulity to think that cohen and weisselberg are cooking this all up and donald trump isn't told about it, hasn't signed off on it or hasn't figured out what's going on with all the money? >> yeah, in a way what this testimony is doing is taking a very strongly circumstantial case and giving the direct testimony because we know all of this through other testimony that's come out. we know trump is a micro manager, we know that through all of the testimony of people who have worked at
trump. cohen says no. hoffinger said why not, because everything required mr. trump sign off. in addition to that, i wanted the money back. that's key, guys, would you have done this without sign off from trump. cohen testifies no. he says i always went to donald trump to make sure these things were cool. and in an admission that any of us can understand, i wanted the money back, michael cohen says. >> we have also had a lot of testimony that donald trump was a micro manager who signed...
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so cohen says he reported directly to trump. and i also want to talk to you, matt, because you were in the trump orbit. you were acting director -- acting attorney general for our nation. you will know a little bit about maybe some people around the president and how thirsty some people can get. he wanted to have that be the case when he elected to take the position, it was clear he was reporting just to trump. so that's a bit of access to power there, i would imagine. cohen says that trump would ask him to renegotiate bills. for example, a law firm would send an invoice trump didn't believe the invoice was fair or justify and give cohen the task of renegotiating the bill. previous to the presidency. i would imagine you saw all sorts of people around the president who might, you know, get drunk on some power. is there any way to know exactly what michael cohen was doing to hold the former president's feet to the fire? sounds like he had -- >> i think there are a couple of key points to your pointing all that point. one, michael
so cohen says he reported directly to trump. and i also want to talk to you, matt, because you were in the trump orbit. you were acting director -- acting attorney general for our nation. you will know a little bit about maybe some people around the president and how thirsty some people can get. he wanted to have that be the case when he elected to take the position, it was clear he was reporting just to trump. so that's a bit of access to power there, i would imagine. cohen says that trump...
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cohen says, yes. president trump tweeted on august 22nd, cohen says, yes. that tweet is if anyone is looking for a good lawyer, i would suggest you don't retain michael cohen. he says, i feel badly for paul manafort and his wonderful family. justice took a 12-year-old tax indicate among other things, applied tremendous pressure on him and unlike michael cohen, he refused to break, make up stories to get a deal. such respect for a brave man. who did you understand these tweets were addressed to? cohen said, to me. displeasure that i'm no longer important to the fold. what did you mean regarding your cooperation? did not cooperate. it caused angst and anxiety. what was it like having the president tweet this day, the day after you pled guilty? it caused a lot of angst and anxiety. despite the tweets, did you plead guilty to making false statements to congress related to the russia probe? yes. i stated and submitted as part of the record that i had spoke to president trump about trump tower moscow. this is -- the color we are seeing in the courtroom, all the q
cohen says, yes. president trump tweeted on august 22nd, cohen says, yes. that tweet is if anyone is looking for a good lawyer, i would suggest you don't retain michael cohen. he says, i feel badly for paul manafort and his wonderful family. justice took a 12-year-old tax indicate among other things, applied tremendous pressure on him and unlike michael cohen, he refused to break, make up stories to get a deal. such respect for a brave man. who did you understand these tweets were addressed to?...
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>> by president trump." that is what michael cohen wanted. donald trump's respect, admiration, his love, but then, he probably knew that donald trump is incapable of love and luckily for michael cohen, his family was capable of love, even after the horror they experience of an fbi raid in their family home. his wife and his daughter, in college, and his son, in high school, did an intervention. he testified that it was a conversation with his family that made him decide that it was time to escape the trump cult. " by that time in late august, what, of anything, had you decided about whether you would continue to live for president trump? >> i made the decision based on the conversation that i had with my family, i would not live for president trump any longer. >> if not for the campaign, would you have paid that money to stormy daniels? >> no, ma'am." michael cohen say the day he pleaded guilty was " the worst day of my life." donald trump issued a tweet that day, aimed at michael cohen . he told the jury that when he testified to congress ab
>> by president trump." that is what michael cohen wanted. donald trump's respect, admiration, his love, but then, he probably knew that donald trump is incapable of love and luckily for michael cohen, his family was capable of love, even after the horror they experience of an fbi raid in their family home. his wife and his daughter, in college, and his son, in high school, did an intervention. he testified that it was a conversation with his family that made him decide that it was...
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from michael cohen to donald trump. it lasted 2:31. blanche said, so do i understand you remember, as you sit here today, you remember that call. cohen, based on the documents i was able to look at, it jogs my mom. blanche, do you have a recollection. cohen, i recall the conversation based on the documents. blanche, at that time, at that day in june. cohen, based on the documents i reviewed, i did. cohen is a lawyer here. >> this is a classic example, i think, of an attorney on cross-examination asking, you know, two too many or three too many questions. you can establish easily that mr. cohen gets a thousand calls a day. you can establish easily that he get os 30,000 calls a month. once he agrees to that, you can argue to the jury when mr. cohen is no longer on the stand that it's simply not credible to believe he remembers one phone call out of 30,000. but if you ask mr. cohen whether he remembers it, and he says he does, you're stuck, and again, i think this is a classic mistake people make in cross-examination. he's not going to ad
from michael cohen to donald trump. it lasted 2:31. blanche said, so do i understand you remember, as you sit here today, you remember that call. cohen, based on the documents i was able to look at, it jogs my mom. blanche, do you have a recollection. cohen, i recall the conversation based on the documents. blanche, at that time, at that day in june. cohen, based on the documents i reviewed, i did. cohen is a lawyer here. >> this is a classic example, i think, of an attorney on...
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pinning cohen down on how cohen had once overbuild trump's company for a reimbursement of money cohen had paid to a tech firm you did steal from the trump organization based upon the expected reimbursement blanche asked. yes, sir. cohen said the testimony that michael cohen pocketed for himself the difference between what he was given in what he paid was actually brought out and a very low key way by the prosecution on their direct examination. obviously, todd blanche hammered at home much harder using the term still, it's cohen's latest admission to a growing pattern of misdeeds and lies. >> my god. so cohen is a convicted liar and he's got no credibility whatsoever in 2017, cohen lied to congress about a trump tower deal in moscow that he'd been involved with. >> he later pleaded guilty to that two years after lying to lawmakers, cohen came back to congress and gave a mere culpa i have lied but i am not a liar and i have done bad things but i am not a bad man. >> a few months before his dramatic turnaround before congress, cohen had pleaded guilty to eight counts including campaign
pinning cohen down on how cohen had once overbuild trump's company for a reimbursement of money cohen had paid to a tech firm you did steal from the trump organization based upon the expected reimbursement blanche asked. yes, sir. cohen said the testimony that michael cohen pocketed for himself the difference between what he was given in what he paid was actually brought out and a very low key way by the prosecution on their direct examination. obviously, todd blanche hammered at home much...
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michael cohen was trump's lawyer , some people call him the fixer. he said he was involved in the hush money deal at the center of this case, the pment to stormy daniels. we heard a lot of testimony about that deal. michael cohen is the guy precors hope can link the deal directly to donald trump in terms of what michael cohen says trumdicted him to make the payment in the weeks before the 20 election and then cohen may be able to give insight into the actual charges in the case, which are that in getting reimbursed trump and his company logged the reimbursement payments as legal expenses, which prosecutors say as a way of covering up the cover-up, that they were not legitimate legal expenses, they were reimbursement for hush money payment. host: this is likely the make or break moment of this trial? guest: absolutely. so far we have heard a lot of testimony from other witnesses putting some pieces together, but it is michael cohen who can finish the puzzle. he is the person that prosecutors say was in a meeting with the national enquirer executive ta
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you only hear trump and cohen. let's watch. >> i told you about charleston. i need to open up a company for the transfer of all of that info regarding our friend david, so i am going to right away. and i've spoken to allen weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up with funding. yes. it's all the stuff. because you never know -- correct. so i'm all over that. and i spoke to him about it. when it comes to the financing. >> what financing? we don't pay with cash? >> no, no, no. >> harris: i mean, mercedes, it sounds like he's giving advice as a paid attorney, but then he's acting shady like a criminal. i know it's one-party state bees breaking client attorney privilege by making a recording he's willing to play for any anybody. >> if you have that level of distress with a client, guess what can i don't represent them. that flies in the face of the fiduciary duty have to your client, it flies in the face of the oath you took as an attorney. it is unbelievable, and i can't conceive of a lawyer coming forward on yo
you only hear trump and cohen. let's watch. >> i told you about charleston. i need to open up a company for the transfer of all of that info regarding our friend david, so i am going to right away. and i've spoken to allen weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up with funding. yes. it's all the stuff. because you never know -- correct. so i'm all over that. and i spoke to him about it. when it comes to the financing. >> what financing? we don't pay with cash? >> no, no,...
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cohen had to say about the trump world by name. as he makes the case he didn't act alone. and to my mind at least we'll be talking about the other appearances of the former first lady in today's trial testimony. boy, did that one come as a surprise. we'll have that portion of the transcript for you and an explanation when we come back. stay with us. pits stink. that's why i use secret whole body deodorant... everywhere. 4 out of 5 gynecologists would recommend whole body deodorant, which gives you 72 hour odor protection from your pits to your- (sfx: deoderant being sprayed) secret whole body deodorant. ( ♪ ♪ ) start your day with nature made. the #1 pharmacist recommended vitamin and supplement brand. are your gutters clogged? cleaning them can be dangerous, mucky, yuck. get leaffilter. it's as easy as one, two, three. call or click today. get your free gutter inspection on your schedule and get leaffilter installed in as little as a few hours. you'll never have to clean out your gutters again, guaranteed. get leaf filter toda
cohen had to say about the trump world by name. as he makes the case he didn't act alone. and to my mind at least we'll be talking about the other appearances of the former first lady in today's trial testimony. boy, did that one come as a surprise. we'll have that portion of the transcript for you and an explanation when we come back. stay with us. pits stink. that's why i use secret whole body deodorant... everywhere. 4 out of 5 gynecologists would recommend whole body deodorant, which gives...
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trump claims cohen acted on his own. but in court, prosecutors played a recording of a phone call between cohen and daniels lawyer at the time, keith davidson. cohen telling him trump often complained about paying the hush money. >> i can't even tell you how many times he said to me, "i hate the fact that we did it." and my comment to him was, "but every person that you've spoken to told you it was the right move." >> reporter: davidson testified that after the election, cohen kept in touch, making sure stormy daniels was keeping quiet. when stories about trump and daniels began bubbling up in 2018, davidson says cohen had him draft multiple statements in the porn star's name. one denying a "sexual and/or romantic affair with donald trump." davidson insisting the letter was "technically" true, because no one "ever alleged that any interaction between she and mr. trump was romantic." >> stormy daniels! >> reporter: but stormy daniels was done playing along. >> did you sign this letter that was released today? >> i don't k
trump claims cohen acted on his own. but in court, prosecutors played a recording of a phone call between cohen and daniels lawyer at the time, keith davidson. cohen telling him trump often complained about paying the hush money. >> i can't even tell you how many times he said to me, "i hate the fact that we did it." and my comment to him was, "but every person that you've spoken to told you it was the right move." >> reporter: davidson testified that after the...
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so here's michael cohen and donald trump in a recording that cohen made without trump knowing in a meeting in trump's office. >> i've spoken to allen weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up with -- >> so, what do we got to pay for this? one-fifty? -- funding. yes, and it's all the stuff. >> yeah, i was thinking about that. >> all the stuff. i'm all over that. i spoke to allen about it. when it comes time for the financing -- >> what financing? >> we'll have to pay him something. >> we'll pay with cash. >> no, no, no. i got it. >> no, no, no, not cash. check. why a check? let's bring into the conversation our colleague, lisa rubin. also catherine christian, former district attorney at the manhattan d.a's office. let me ask you if i characterized the context of that recording correctly? >> yeah. >> and when they say pecker might get hit by a truck, what they mean is pecker might no longer be the custodian of what we believe is negative information about trump, so we should own that ourselves? >> correct. >> okay. why does -- or is it clear to you why it matters that trump is suggesti
so here's michael cohen and donald trump in a recording that cohen made without trump knowing in a meeting in trump's office. >> i've spoken to allen weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up with -- >> so, what do we got to pay for this? one-fifty? -- funding. yes, and it's all the stuff. >> yeah, i was thinking about that. >> all the stuff. i'm all over that. i spoke to allen about it. when it comes time for the financing -- >> what financing? >>...
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donald trump issued a tweet that day aimed at michael cohen. michael cohen told the jury that today, when he testified to congress about paying off stormy daniels and being reimbursed by donald trump and showing congress the actual checks used to reimburse him, quote, i apologized to congress. i apologize to the country. i apologize to my family. the final question the prosecutor asked michael cohen before handing him over for prosecution was, question, mr. cohen, do you have any regrets about your past work with donald trump? answer, i do. question, what are they? answer, i regret doing things for him that i should not have. lying, bullying people in order to effectuate a goal. i don't regret working at the trump organization, because as i expressed before, some very interesting, great times. but to keep the loyalty and to do the things that he asked me to do, i violated my moral compass and i suffer the penalty, as has my family. and so, in careful, thorough description through question and answer, michael cohen's story contained the classic
donald trump issued a tweet that day aimed at michael cohen. michael cohen told the jury that today, when he testified to congress about paying off stormy daniels and being reimbursed by donald trump and showing congress the actual checks used to reimburse him, quote, i apologized to congress. i apologize to the country. i apologize to my family. the final question the prosecutor asked michael cohen before handing him over for prosecution was, question, mr. cohen, do you have any regrets about...
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but look, in court, all focus was on donald trump and michael cohen. katrina, they didn't even look at each other in court. it was quite a moment to see the back together face-to-face. anchor: the court has rested for the day, but it is far from over for mr. cohen. what did he get through today? what did he say? correspondent: michael cohen said that everything had to be signed off by donald trump. he took jurors through the timeline of this alleged conspiracy and cover-up, saying even before donald trump ran for office he told michael cohen to be ready for negative press, that many women would come forwd with stories. and when they eventually did, michael cohen said that the stormy daniels story was something that he thought could be catastrophic for donald trump's campaign and that donald trump himself was fuming, saying it would be a total disaster, that women would hate them for it. ultimately, cohen said that donald trump ordered him to do it, to make the yment to stormy daniels. he said he was ultimately the one that fronted the money because nob
but look, in court, all focus was on donald trump and michael cohen. katrina, they didn't even look at each other in court. it was quite a moment to see the back together face-to-face. anchor: the court has rested for the day, but it is far from over for mr. cohen. what did he get through today? what did he say? correspondent: michael cohen said that everything had to be signed off by donald trump. he took jurors through the timeline of this alleged conspiracy and cover-up, saying even before...
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trump for stormy daniels. hoffinger says, who was the he, cohen says mr. trump. hoffinger, were you still being paid by mr. trump. cohen, yes, ma'am. and were you personal attorney for president trump, yes. defense asked you questions about how you profited. i do remember. putting aside the financial matters, how has telling the truth about donald trump affected your life? cohen says my life has been turned upside down, lost his law license, business, financial security, my family's happiness, he says. hoffinger, there have been certain attacks you have faced as a result, has it been painful to you and your family. cohen says very much so. then the prosecution rests, not rests but done with michael cohen. there's the recross. todd blanche comes back up. you were asked about a question about your life being turned upside down because you changed your view about trump. this is an objection, it's sustained. blanche, you were asked about the consequences of your conduct, lost your law license. is that president trump's fault. cohen says in part. coenhad, lost my law
trump for stormy daniels. hoffinger says, who was the he, cohen says mr. trump. hoffinger, were you still being paid by mr. trump. cohen, yes, ma'am. and were you personal attorney for president trump, yes. defense asked you questions about how you profited. i do remember. putting aside the financial matters, how has telling the truth about donald trump affected your life? cohen says my life has been turned upside down, lost his law license, business, financial security, my family's happiness,...
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cohen previously testified he'd called trump's bodyguard keith schiller to get trump on the line, and then he and trump finalized the plan for cohen to pay off daniels. but blanche said that wasn't the real reason for the call, producing text messages suggesting cohen was actually calling trump's bodyguard to complain he was getting prank calls from a 14-year-old. blanche insisted cohen misled the jury when he testified the call was about the hush money. "that was a lie," the defense lawyer thundered. "you were actually talking to mr. schiller that you were getting harassing phone calls?" "part of it was the 14-year-old," cohen conceded. "but i knew that keith was with trump at the time." "that was a lie," blanche fired back. "you did not talk to president trump that night. you can admit it." cohen kept his cool. "no, sir, i can't," he responded, "because i'm not sure that's accurate." trump's defense pointed out the call in question was 96 seconds, but cohen sticking to his story, insisting it covered both the prank phone calls he received and the hush money scheme. the defense did n
cohen previously testified he'd called trump's bodyguard keith schiller to get trump on the line, and then he and trump finalized the plan for cohen to pay off daniels. but blanche said that wasn't the real reason for the call, producing text messages suggesting cohen was actually calling trump's bodyguard to complain he was getting prank calls from a 14-year-old. blanche insisted cohen misled the jury when he testified the call was about the hush money. "that was a lie," the defense...
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cohen, yes. hoffinger, why did you do that? cohen, in order to protect mr. trump. so, as danny was saying, you have to own it. you have to own all the flaws in your witness and we do what you call drawing the sting. you don't want the jury to think you're hiding anything about the witness from them. you elicit all the lies they told in the past, all the crimes they committed, all the bias they harbor against the person who gets to offer testimony because you want to be up-front with the jury. this person has given very incriminating testimony on direct examination against donald trump and now we're in the section of the direct examination where the prosecutors elicit all the reasons why his credibility may be in question. and if cohen comes through this section, looking like he's not running away from what he's done in the past, if he owns it, then when, again, the defense goes into this cross examination, it doesn't look like cohen or the prosecutor were trying to hide any of it. >> let's go back to yasmin vossoughian and they're revisiting the testimony from anot
cohen, yes. hoffinger, why did you do that? cohen, in order to protect mr. trump. so, as danny was saying, you have to own it. you have to own all the flaws in your witness and we do what you call drawing the sting. you don't want the jury to think you're hiding anything about the witness from them. you elicit all the lies they told in the past, all the crimes they committed, all the bias they harbor against the person who gets to offer testimony because you want to be up-front with the jury....
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trump feels betrayed by cohen cohen feels betrayed by trump. and so there is that sort of real personality dynamic that's going on here. i think the prosecutors do need to go more into michael cohen's motivation to say what is now clearly he's not being portrayed as this noble, altruistic guy. and i think he has to be consistent with that, but they still need to say why are you here now? why did you testifying for the prosecution the dynamic all de has been very, very interesting he comes across, michael cohen is someone who really admired trump at one point, someone who wanted to please all of the time, how does that play into this? well, i think it's really interesting. this is the whole portrait that jurors are getting about sort of inside the trump political campaign. the trump organization inside trump himself and this of notion that people really do caudal up to him. people want to use them, people want his favor for and then he uses them in somehow sometimes they feel betrayed and then they want to get back at him. so this whole dynamic
trump feels betrayed by cohen cohen feels betrayed by trump. and so there is that sort of real personality dynamic that's going on here. i think the prosecutors do need to go more into michael cohen's motivation to say what is now clearly he's not being portrayed as this noble, altruistic guy. and i think he has to be consistent with that, but they still need to say why are you here now? why did you testifying for the prosecution the dynamic all de has been very, very interesting he comes...
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the idea that i'm not sure that the idea that michael cohen turned on trump before trump turned on cohen is an accurate description of events but then yes, from a political perspective, you're seeing this just this parade of people that he is demanding someone described in a headline as the indignity of the trump beef steaks. and i really do think that is what it is they sort of have to prostrate themselves up for him because i mean, the reality is he if you are a politician in the republican party, 30 and donald trump turns on you, you will be cast out of the party that is just the reality of the situation right now. >> let's talk about the case. so bill brynn one of the things that michael cohen tried to do the prosecution tried to do was to illustrate the idea that this cover this payment, the hush money payment happened explicitly because of donald trump's fears of how voters would react and not out of fears of how melania, his wife, would react. this is according to michael cohen, i'm not saying it's a fact. i'm saying according to cohen. and in fact, cohen testified that he asked w
the idea that i'm not sure that the idea that michael cohen turned on trump before trump turned on cohen is an accurate description of events but then yes, from a political perspective, you're seeing this just this parade of people that he is demanding someone described in a headline as the indignity of the trump beef steaks. and i really do think that is what it is they sort of have to prostrate themselves up for him because i mean, the reality is he if you are a politician in the republican...